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Seems to me that the only tax churches are exempt from that other charities are not, is property tax?
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It is so sad to see shiftless get the numbers out of context:

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The church does not classify the moneys spent in other than direct aid as charity where they supply, feed and pay a stipend to those working relief agency actions. There are other aspects.



If you read the article that quote came from you'd see that the expenses you're referring to are buried in that 29%

"Their study of 271 congregations found an average of 71% of revenues going to ‘operating expenses,’ while help to the poor is somewhere within the remaining 29%"

Meanwhile the Red Cross uses 92% of its revenues for physical assistance. emoticon



IS REPORTED by Red Cross to use 92% for the physical assistance. They claim EVERY deductible expense they can wriggle into and twist to fit UNLIKE some of the churches that choose to NOT take potentially dishonest reductions. As I remember in St. Louis news the RC gets special dispensation for all of the structures and employment expenses as well any materials they use or disperse including gifts are removed from taxability.
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As I remember in St. Louis news the RC gets special dispensation for all of the structures and employment expenses as well any materials they use or disperse including gifts are removed from taxability.



That is no different from any other business. It's not a "special dispensation" - if it is, please provide a link for that.

BTW - you statement that churches "choose not to take potentially dishonest reductions [sic]" makes no sense whatsoever. Churches don't have to pay taxes - they don't file so they don't have to claim any deductions.
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Really? Does Emerson or GE get release from Property taxes on their parking facilities? Or from paying employees? How is it a church cannot then?
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All in all why shouldn't they pay taxes? If they can prove they are doing a lot of good for the needy with the money they have they could get some of their tax dollars back.

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When Scientology became a religious faith along with a few dozen other so called religions/faiths along the decades, I thought enough was enough. Either that or I'll start a church.
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Really? Does Emerson or GE get release from Property taxes on their parking facilities? Or from paying employees? How is it a church cannot then?



Emerson and GE do not get a release [sic] on their property taxes for their parking facilities.

What part of "a church doesn't pay income tax" don't you understand? If they don't pay tax on their income they don't have to deduct anything.

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All in all why shouldn't they pay taxes? If they can prove they are doing a lot of good for the needy with the money they have they could get some of their tax dollars back.



If they were taxed like any other business they'd only pay taxes on their net income (i.e., revenues less expenses) and those expenses would include charitable donations, money spent helping the poor, operating costs (salary, electricity, and the like).

And of course, property taxes which everyone else has to pay.
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rose, not to worry - the young are turning away from religion in droves.

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