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I'll grant you that Islam is horrible.
But, to be honest, so is Christianity.
And terrorism can be motivated by something other than religion.
As to stopping terrorism, no but we should try to remove causes or minimise them.



The fact that terrorism can be motivated by things other than religion is irrelevant in the case of Muslim terrorism. It is a derivative of the religion, not something occurring because someone had the audacity to criticize it. A "special" faith that isn't supposed to be criticized according to some folks who believe in handling it with kid gloves. All while acting as if Islam is a benign religion that causes no problems in the world.

People should not shy away from the truth when dealing with something as important and influential as Islam.



I think you miss some important facts, the powers that be not foot soldiers are into domination, power, control, money & oil. Religion is left to the little guy. There are plenty of us around in the world that do not handle any religion with kid gloves. I say what's on my mind but I don't go the route of the far right and make statements like calling Muslims"goatherders" or "raghead" either.



I don't do that either. It's insulting and a foolish thing to do but at the same time I'm not going to pretend that their religion is something rational and benign when it is neither.

Muslims are no different from anyone else in that they need to know the truth about what they believe.
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 Who put you in charge of peoples truth? Because it is your truth doesn't make it anyone elses truth and we all should have the right to choose our own path.
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Christian Extremist: The Manchester Victims Were "Sluts," "Whores," and Sodomy…
Theodore Shoebat isn't representative of all Christians, obviously, but his warped sense of morality is based on his interpretation of the Bible.
by Hemant Mehta
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Shoebat reminds me of some of our juries who seem to identify more with murderers than they do their victims. Like that Texas jury who allowed the killer of Lenora Frago to walk free. I guess the fact that she worked as an escort made it seem OK in their tiny little minds.

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 Who put you in charge of peoples truth? Because it is your truth doesn't make it anyone elses truth and we all should have the right to choose our own path.



There's no "peoples truth," there's just the truth. And the truth is that Islam is a big load of bull.

The fact that many people love it and respect it doesn't change that fact. They need to work on loving and caring about their fellow humans more than their cold-blooded religion which doesn't give a hoot about anyone.
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 Who put you in charge of peoples truth? Because it is your truth doesn't make it anyone elses truth and we all should have the right to choose our own path.



There's no "peoples truth," there's just the truth. And the truth is that Islam is a big load of bull.

The fact that many people love it and respect it doesn't change that fact. They need to work on loving and caring about their fellow humans more than their cold-blooded religion which doesn't give a hoot about anyone.



Islam is a load of crap but so is Christianity. Both religions derived from another load of crap, namely Judaism.

How anyone can think a religion derived from people of the Middle East can be anything else defies good sense.
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 Who put you in charge of peoples truth? Because it is your truth doesn't make it anyone elses truth and we all should have the right to choose our own path.



There's no "peoples truth," there's just the truth. And the truth is that Islam is a big load of bull.

The fact that many people love it and respect it doesn't change that fact. They need to work on loving and caring about their fellow humans more than their cold-blooded religion which doesn't give a hoot about anyone.



Islam is a load of crap but so is Christianity. Both religions derived from another load of crap, namely Judaism.

How anyone can think a religion derived from people of the Middle East can be anything else defies good sense.



It's not the Middle East that was the problem. It's the BS that some people came up with. They could have been living in Africa or Central America and it would still have been bullshit.

We had a guy in this country who came up with a religion very similar in some ways to Islam, Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism. It's a religion that is just as ridiculous as Islam with a completely preposterous origin story.

God or Allah in the case of Islam would not pick out one guy to give his message to. That makes no sense whatsoever because He would have to know that it would only lead to problems resulting from only irrational people being gullible enough to follow such a person.

Gullible, irrational people have a lot of difficulty being what a benevolent God would want them to be.
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I can't think of any religion that doesn't have a completely preposterous origin story. They are all built around early man trying to figure out what is going on. They made up some really rediclous stuff because they didn't know any better. Science has corrected most of that but many would rather die for their religion that live for science.

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Can reflect on Catholics during the Inquisition days/years where they were as bad or worse than today's ISIS.
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 They need to work on loving and caring about their fellow humans more than their cold-blooded religion which doesn't give a hoot about anyone.



Many Muslims do just that...


Manchester bombing: Muslims raise thousands of pounds for victims after terror attack

Donations are pouring in within hours of pages being set up
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/muslims-raise-money-manchester-suicide-bombing-explosion-salman-abedi-a7752256.html


Muslims unite to help fix vandalized Jewish cemeteries
http://www.cnn.com/2017/02/28/us/jewish-cemetery-muslim-help-trnd/


Muslims fasting for Ramadan help Cardiff homeless

Muslims across Wales are fasting for the holy month of Ramadan.

But in Cardiff dozens of volunteers from the Muslim community have joined up with curry houses and takeaways to provide fresh meals for the city's homeless.
http://www.bbc.com/news/av/uk-wales-28100303/muslims-fasting-for-ramadan-help-cardiff-homeless

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I can't think of any religion that doesn't have a completely preposterous origin story. They are all built around early man trying to figure out what is going on. They made up some really ridiculous stuff because they didn't know any better. Science has corrected most of that but many would rather die for their religion that live for science.



Thanks for saving me the bother of writing something similar.
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