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Do women have the right to defend themselves from abusive men? The jury in this case apparently didn't think so. They not only convicted her of second degree murder but her father as well. Her father is an ex-FBI agent.

Normally jurors wouldn't want to do that but in this case they had to find him guilty in order to find her guilty.

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Molly Corbett said she wasn’t yelling, aware that her parents were just downstairs. She said Jason Corbett wanted to make her be quiet so he covered her mouth and started choking her. This had happened before, she said.

“At some point, when he stopped, I screamed, and he started again. And the next thing I remember is my dad standing in the doorway,” said Molly Corbett.

Martens had grabbed the baseball bat he brought for Jack and went upstairs, where he said he found Jason Corbett with his hands around Molly Corbett’s neck.

“He quickly moves to not having his hands around her neck, but to move her in front of him in between me … with her throat right in front of the crook of his elbow, and so he’s got her in a chokehold,” Martens said. “I said, ‘Let her go.’ And he said, ‘I'm going to kill her,’ then he starts to edge toward the master bathroom, which has a door. … And my thought was, ‘If he gets into the bathroom, if he gets that door between me and him, then she's dead. And there's nothing I can do about it.’”

Martens continued, “And so I reached around to his left, and my right -- I'm right-handed -- with the baseball bat. And I hit him in the back of the head with the baseball bat.”

The blow to the back of his head didn’t stop Jason Corbett, Martens said, and he kept dragging Molly Corbett toward the bathroom. Martens said he was able to get into the bathroom with Jason Corbett and hit him again with the baseball bat.

“I hit him hard on the back of the head again,” Martens said. “He’s still got her by the throat, but he changes tactics. He decides to come back at me, and I’m swinging the bat, and he catches the bat in his hand.”

“Jason just grabbed the bat away. It was like it was nothing. He could choke me with one hand-- with one arm and grab the bat with the other. And he was just so much stronger,” said Molly Corbett. “He grabs the bat and, you know, pushes my dad.”

At this point, Molly Corbett said she screamed at her husband to not hurt her father. “And I thought … ‘He’s going to hit my dad with the bat, and that’s it … he’s going to kill my father,’” she said.

“So I rush him and I grab the bat with two hands. And I hang on for dear life. And we're struggling' back and forth now four hands on the bat like this. And I'm trying' to hit him with the bat, and hit him with this end of the bat, and hit him with my elbow, and hit him with my fist, or anything else. But I'm going to hang onto that bat. And he goes down. And I've got the bat. And I back off,” Martens said.

Martens said he realized Jason Corbett was not going to get up. “It looks like the threat is over, so I tell Molly, ‘We need to call 911.’”

“He’s bleeding all over and I may have killed him,” Martens told the 911 operator.

The operator instructed him to begin CPR on Jason Corbett, and he passed the phone to his daughter, who then said she also tried to perform CPR on her husband.

“The whole time, I’m thinking that he’s going to sit up and start choking me again, and it was terrifying,” Molly Corbett said. “I think I was so upset that I couldn't-- but I was doing my best to perform CPR to the best of my ability... and trying to make sure that he would be OK. But I was scared the whole time.”



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I listened to what three of the jurors in this case had to say. It was almost amusing to hear one of them say she reached her verdict based on the evidence. Another juror gave away what was really going on when he offered his own theory about what happened which wasn't even presented in court by the prosecution.

This bright boy believes that she hit her husband in the head with a stone while he was sleeping and that her father came to her rescue when her husband wasn't killed but woke up. So he obviously places more blame for what happened on her rather than her father.

Of course. She must be more to blame than her ex-FBI father. No bias there. He was a perfectly objective juror. I'd laugh if this kind of crap wasn't so serious.

So much for our jury system.
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Hard to imagine a jury could be so incompetent?

It is a strange tale, but you would think the father/daughter pair would have ruled out any criminal possibility to the police, prosecutor, or jury?

Very hard to comprehend?
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 i have no idea what really happened, however i can piece together that the jury was probably bias since it took less than 5 hours to convict both of them.
 
  i am thinking the jury couldn't get past the gruesome overkill crime scene photos.

Then there was the fact that she was living the beautiful life, ex-model beautiful family, lovely home who for some reason felt the need to lie to the neighbors.

One neighbor testified that she had told her that she had a difficult child birth with the daughter, when she wasn't even the birth mother.

why tell lies about something that can easily be found out? i am sure that hurt her credibility with the jurors, also her father should of testified. Him remaining silent probably made the jury think he was protecting his daughter after the fact.

i don't know. Casey Anthony was a liar as well, and they found her not guilty apparently happy to believing that her daughter Caylee had simply drowned in the family pool.






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Hard to imagine a jury could be so incompetent?

It is a strange tale, but you would think the father/daughter pair would have ruled out any criminal possibility to the police, prosecutor, or jury?

Very hard to comprehend?



Not really. The defense probably had them tried together to give the woman a better chance at being acquitted. The problem is that the prosecution and the jury were prejudiced against the woman and they had to take the ex-FBI guy along for the ride in order to get her.

If she hadn't been in the room when it happened and he had been the only charged it is much less likely that he would have been convicted of murder.
 
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Yes, that's a bad sign. So is having a theory of the crime that places even more blame on the woman than the prosecution did.
 
  
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i am thinking the jury couldn't get past the gruesome overkill crime scene photos.



Good point. But neither of the defendants claimed they were gentle with the victim. They claimed that it was a violent and brutal struggle to defend themselves.

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Then there was the fact that she was living the beautiful life, ex-model beautiful family, lovely home who for some reason felt the need to lie to the neighbors.

One neighbor testified that she had told her that she had a difficult child birth with the daughter, when she wasn't even the birth mother.



Interesting but it doesn't establish that she committed second degree murder. And I am always leery of neighbors and friends making unverified claims like that. Maybe she didn't even say that to her neighbor.

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why tell lies about something that can easily be found out? i am sure that hurt her credibility with the jurors, also her father should of testified. Him remaining silent probably made the jury think he was protecting his daughter after the fact.



Perhaps but jurors sometimes don't like the idea of some man protecting a woman from an abusive man by using violence against that man, especially what they perceive to be excessive violence. I recall another case where a young man received the death penalty for killing an allegedly abusive man who was married to his sister.

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i don't know. Casey Anthony was a liar as well, and they found her not guilty apparently happy to believing that her daughter Caylee had simply drowned in the family pool.



I was surprised by that juries verdict. Usually juries find women guilty of whatever they are charged with. In that case the jury made the right decision based on the evidence. They simply had no evidence establishing that Caylee had been murdered.
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Did the prosecution ever try to establish a motive?
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Did the prosecution ever try to establish a motive?



I believe they suggested a couple of possible motives. One was that she wanted to have custody of the kids and couldn't get custody if she divorced him. The other was for financial gain.
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i was thinking the jury was probably unconsciously looking for a reason to be bias against her -- And when the prosecution went after her credibility by painting her as a liar. This was not a jury of her peers. She had lived a life most people would be jealous of.

regarding Casey Anthony, i'm sure if Caylee Anthony body had been found earlier, they would of found her guilty of manslaughter.

i'm pretty sure she gave her daughter zandex to knock her out on a regular basis. You know (Zanny the Nanny the mysterious Nanny that didn't exist that her parents thought was babysitting Caylee when Casey partied.
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