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IF it were a science and not a electronics game played on computers, a "Guessing Game", would not be a problem. Currently the Hurricane Irma has defied all Computer based logic, in the large part by the data streams input by Human Hands. The Computer is only as smart as the input materials will let it.

Now as to that storm, it followed Cuba coastline then has since turned N Nw as it will follow the FL coast. The SCIENCE claims it will make landfall on Continental FL not just the Keys and continue up thru the state. Lets just see how 'Smart' the science really is.

Seems my 'Guess' based on travel and direction of movement has since shown out as well or better than the Masters of Climate Depiction.
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And so does come ashore, on the West not East coast as Cat 4, fairly low population zone drops quickly into Cat 3 then by the time has reached Tampa has dropped to Cat 2 and lost most of the moisture influx. Now a tropical depression buffeting Georgia.
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So what other predictions that fit this theory and not explained by anything else, are occurring, right now ?

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This is from a different thread, here, but needs to said here, too:

Yeah, but given my professional interest, I follow the tropical weather forecasts regularly every year. There are more of them as predicted by a certain theory, BUT as they have stayed out to sea, gone up the mid Atlantic, the dumb deniers and fake news authoritarians can claim that they don't know about them, so they don't know what is really going on, actually.

Now, something that needs saying is that ultimately until the 1960's, the data is not reliable in that it was gathered by ships at sea. A big mid-ocean hurricane, or one that lasted as long Irma, could easily be counted twice ... as two different storms, if, for example, if it was reported once, not far west of the Cape Verdes, then not again until it was bearing down on Windward Islands.

So admittedly it got better between WWII and the 1960's, but still remember the storm that USS Independence was in was not forecast

So read this:

Seasons with the most named storms, 1851 - Present

Rank Year Number of Storms
1. 2005 28
2. 1933 20
3. 2012 19
3. 2011 19
3. 2010 19
3. 1995 19
3. 1887 19
8. 1969 18
9. 2008 16
9. 2003 16
9. 1936 16
12. 2007 15
13. 2004 15
14. 2001 15
15. 2000 15

... and how many are in the past ... 20 or 25 years ?


and lately note this:

3. 2012 19
3. 2011 19
3. 2010 19

But the years in between did not let up much

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But where they went is why the silly fools can pretend the corporate liars are correct in saying what you do not see is not happening.

There is what their denial really is.
    



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And I will not EVER "Deny" anything as to the climate Changing, it changes every year and every eon as well on every planet.

As you Climate Shriekers call out "Is Worse than Bad or badder than the Worst ".

 Unbelievable as all foundation is based on "Recorded Historic Data that dates from such "Ancient" times as the 17or 1800's That is basically 'Modern Time' and hardly a value as to a 'Trend' of "The Earth's Worst Storms" Add the caveat of recorded history, or of data recorded or of any other caveat to make it justify in your own mind. It Snowed Worse than I had Ever Seen in 2014/15 winter, does not mean has snowed any less in the past, or that deep in the past was not ever so much worse. Get a reality check.
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 "Recorded Historic Data that dates from such "Ancient" times as the 17or 1800's That is basically 'Modern Time' and hardly a value as to a 'Trend' of "The Earth's Worst Storms"

That's just fake news.

How much do you understand undisturbed piston cores at sea or in lakes, where the sediment layers weld evidence of the contributing environment and/or ice cores wherein the entrapped gases can measure the CO2 content over millions eons ?

Then if you claim that get that stuff, granted that CO2 has been higher, but how long did it take ? * please show us any instance of such rapid increase in atmosphere CO2, and/or what besides pumping carbon outta the ground and into the air, could case it, please.

*The Fantastically Strange Origin of Most Coal on Earth

 So imagine, then, these stands of towering, fernlike plants mostly growing in swamps. The air is warm and moist, and the land (Europe, the Americas, and Africa were at the time one continuous mass) is covered by millions—no, billions—of trees that are sucking carbon from the air, growing, aging, dying, falling, and releasing oxygen. This is a world littered with dead trees piling on top of each other.

But when those trees died, the bacteria, fungi, and other microbes that today would have chewed the dead wood into smaller and smaller bits were missing, or as Ward and Kirschvink put it, they “were not yet present.”

Where Are They?

Bacteria existed, of course, but microbes that could ingest lignin and cellulose—the key wood-eaters—had yet to evolve. It’s a curious mismatch. Food to eat but no eaters to eat it. And so enormous loads of wood stayed whole. “Trees would fall and not decompose back,” write Ward and Kirschvink.

Instead, trunks and branches would fall on top of each other, and the weight of all that heavy wood would eventually compress those trees into peat and then, over time, into coal. Had those bacteria been around devouring wood, they’d have broken carbon bonds, releasing carbon and oxygen into the air, but instead the carbon stayed in the wood.

We’re talking about a spectacular amount of carbon. Biochemist Nick Lane guesses that the rate of coal formation back then was 600 times the normal rate. Ward and Kirschvink say that 90 percent—yup, 90 percent!—of the coal we burn today (and the coal dust we see flying about Beijing and New Delhi) comes from that single geological period, the Carboniferous period.

That’s why it’s called “carboniferous”—because it produced so much carbon. “The Carboniferous period was the time of forest burial on a spectacular scale,” the writers say.

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Could not be the Solar helping hand we have been enjoying? That "Silent Sun" the Climatologists keep rambling on about?

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There are a great deal of outside Earth influences happening Every Day, this new energy burst process just Happened to start Last Week.

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How did that increase the CO2 levels and ocean acidification?

Your theory must explain the observed data.
Get back to us with that.
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So you have become a science denier? You "DENY" The Sun can influence weather, you are such a Denier!
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the sun CAN influence weather but at the minute the influence it is having would tend (based on the past) to cause cooling NOT warming.

for several years now the sun has been unusually quiet - the last time it was even nearly this quiet was during the Dalton minimum when it coincided with a period of very much cooler weather (before that the Maunder Minimum coincided with a similar period of colder weather).

the last time that the sun was this quite was before 1750 (when accurate records begin)

So whatever the sun as decided to do in these recent weeks does not change what it has been like for the last decade
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Yet as noted our "Angry" Sun has been dramatically at event levels surging a level X Flare toward Earth just last week. That entails days to weeks of Angry as to Solar activity which according to the Science of Solar events plays havoc on the magnetosphere which also affects weather phenomena.
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OK so that might explain the last couple of weeks, what is your explanation for the last decade?
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Take note of what that article does state, for that basis the Sun has Changed as to what they 'Knew' of it and how they 'read' the levels of discharge from it. Even a Quiet Sun is Not so Quiet. PROVIDING the figures are correct as to their science facts, they are most likely basing said findings on the instrument results and recordings I noted in a much earlier post from the electrical power industry where they were seeing delivery function impedance even during low solar activity but increased radiation Indicated levels. Such information was shot down by those here as 'Non Conformal' so was ignored.

Now Science reads off of it and is now OK?
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So you have become a science denier? You "DENY" The Sun can influence weather, you are such a Denier!




LOL

I'm denying the bad bought and paid for, so the evil whore's PR driven science* that you can not defend because it does not fit that data, sure.
That is just being scientific about it, really, isn't it ?

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So let's review. The topic here is " So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes" .
So, that raises the question of what does say about you to watch you deny it ?
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So here is an interest view that most of you would miss, as it is not news where you live.
It speaks to my point here:

So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes ...



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And where do you receive heat from Geezes, you make it from free air?? The Sun is the master of the equation and you Deny Deny Deny. As usual.

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Then there are the heat engines Humans built we deliver 500-1200 degree F exhaust het, engines rumble along at 190 F, factories and air conditioning condensers pump out hundreds of degrees of heat, plain, simple tons of BTU that goes unaccounted for that has to exchange with something to exchange that heat back into equilibrium. We generate heat in electrical current in overhead wires, in the cooling systems for power stations in the HVAC systems of each and every industrialized nation home. yet somehow, some way that does not mean anything its all CO2, BS.

Go back to school your thermodynamics education lacking is fairly obvious.
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And where do you receive heat from Geezes, you make it from free air?? The Sun is the master of the equation and you Deny Deny Deny. As usual.

Now ?
Both from the sun and all of the old carbon that we are burning.

Now, talk about where it is supposed to go as opposed where it stays as function of both insolation and insulation due to man made green house gasres,

Can you ?
Will you you ?

It is not rocket science, but NASA does explain it, for you.

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So please correlate your "sunspots" theory with these observations, Cooter :

Following last year's massive die-off of Alaskan seabirds, scientists still looking for answers

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“About 30,000 carcasses were counted in some way or another, but we know only a small percentage of those that die actually make it to the beach. Nobody has generated a useful total estimate, I would say possibly hundreds of thousands were killed.”

And it’s not just how many died, it’s where they died. “There were some in Lake Iliamna, down on the roads along the Kenai Peninsula, and all the way up to Fairbanks. Murres aren’t supposed to be there,” Kuletz said.

“Almost always it’s been starvation, so it’s clear the birds haven’t been able to find the kind of food that they need. They are relatively large, they have to eat a large percentage of their body mass every day, so they need a lot of food,” Renner said.

But why are the murres starving? Murres primarily eat small forage fish like pollock, a staple in Alaskan commercial fishing. The lack of pollock is where the situation gets murkier.

“It seems very likely that there’s a warm water link to this, but there’s no definitive proof to that. We have observed warm water, and we know that the birds have had a hard time finding food,” Renner said.

Kuletz agrees, saying that the long term trend of ocean waters is a continual warming pattern. “If you look at the long term trend, it continues to warm. And certainly the last couple years have been some of the warmest ever recorded. If you look at the long term, [the die-off] certainly looks related to climate change.”

 ... and it is happening AGAIN, this year.



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Cherry Picking and Cherry Picked data, work with ALL the availed inputs or its garbage science cherry picked to 'Fit a desired effect'.

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How is your sun spot theory not exactly that, too ?

It does even explain the data we are seeing.
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It is but ONE of many and I state MANY points I accept by Science Facts as to derived components driving climate on our planet. I do not put a whole lot of stock in claims that derive from the context of a 'few' points to ponder where the scenarios they claim to play and attest as to 'Will come' predictions that fail to materialize or those that claim weather phenomena are evidence but in the same breath state singular weather events the other direction 'Do not count'.

You Denier of science facts. Have to use them all as inputs or is Garbage Science.
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" I accept by Science Facts as to derived components driving climate on our planet."

How lonely is it getting be so very wrong ?

Look, no one is fooled by your political motives. You are wacked to talk about me posting cherry picked examples, as I pull in all sorts of evidence, while you use your singular no compromise political motivate weak theory ... the science grant whores politically motivated obstructionist cororate sponsored BS, and then imply I'm not morally incorrect to cherry pick, like you always do.
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"Yet as noted our "Angry" Sun has been dramatic... " Cooter.

Well, okay, so, boss-man, is it time to sacrifice a virgin, to him, again, then ?

Well, I don't abide that treatment of women, but of course I have no right to interfere with your religious beliefs nor your practice of them.

So she, the virgin, had better be part of the elitist priest, the one who puts the knife in, family, THIS TIME !!!

and .. and happy Indigenous People's Day, in advance, Cooter . emoticon

 

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No but the Climate Shriekers as you need to set back and INTERPRET ALL the availed data not just those that suit a 'Need' to be showing that Human causes are THE causes, there are a multitude of other inputs to the equation and DENYING those changes the formula DRASTICALLY.
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quote:

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And where do you receive heat from Geezes, you make it from free air?? The Sun is the master of the equation and you Deny Deny Deny. As usual.

Now ?
Both from the sun and all of the old carbon that we are burning.

Now, talk about where it is supposed to go as opposed where it stays as function of both isolation and insulation due to man made green house gases,

Can you ?
Will you you ?
 

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 Talk about where it is supposed to go as opposed where it stays as function of both isolation and insulation due to man made green house gases,

Can you ?
Will you you ?
Have you yet ?
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ADD ALL the availed inputs or the data stream is INVALID except to make a point in a direction someone wishes to see.

The current Computers can not accept ALL the available inputs as to Climate Change where they lock up or run wild in too many alternative directions which if cannot be trusted to a finite decision the scientists remove enough points to come to ANY FIXED determination which in essence is INVALID as it does not include ALL data available.

Add ONLY CO2 and the points go to one referenced direction, add more inputs where deviations occur begins rendering Opinions and Valued Studies as well Egos worthless. Scientists have reputations to maintain, Regardless the outcomes they can fall back to "It was just Theory of the time" or the Computers were in error as to values or any of another dozen caveats I have heard in the decades since the 1970's scares even as it was Incomplete as to availed inputs by these Reputable scientist.
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