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Congress passes resolution telling Trump to denounce Neo-Nazis


Congress Passes Measure Challenging Trump to Denounce Hate Groups

By GLENN THRUSHSEPT. 12, 2017

WASHINGTON — The House and Senate have unanimously passed a joint resolution urging President Trump to denounce racist and anti-Semitic hate groups, sending a blunt message of dissatisfaction with the president’s initial, equivocal response to the white nationalist violence in Charlottesville, Va., last month.

The resolution passed the Senate without dissent on Monday and was approved without objection by the entire House on Tuesday night. It could be sent to the White House for Mr. Trump’s signature as early as Wednesday.

A White House spokeswoman did not immediately answer a request for comment.
The nonbinding measure specifically singles out for condemnation “White nationalists, White supremacists, the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, and other hate groups.” That represents a sharp contrast to the president’s first comments after the deadly early August demonstrations in which he assigned equivalent blame for the violence on anti-fascist counter-protesters.

Mr. Trump denounced “hatred, bigotry and violence — on many sides” and argued that many of the protesters who staged a torchlight march to protest the removal of a statue of Robert E. Lee from the University of Virginia campus were “very fine people.”

The House version of the resolution, introduced by Republican and Democratic House members from Virginia, asks Mr. Trump to “use all resources available to the President and the President’s Cabinet to address the growing prevalence of those hate groups in the United States.”

In a rare show of bipartisan unity, Speaker Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin and Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, introduced the measure as a joint resolution, which requires a presidential signature. Two Republican congressional aides involved in the process said the intent was to put the president on the record calling out white racism by name.

The text doesn’t include any reference to counterprotesters.

It also calls on Attorney General Jeff Sessions to “investigate thoroughly all acts of violence, intimidation, and domestic terrorism by White supremacists, White nationalists, neo-Nazis, the Ku Klux Klan, and associated groups” and to “improve the reporting of hate crimes” to the [sign in to see URL].

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[sign in to see URL] a good gesture from Congress but Trump will ignore it.

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How can they pass a Resolution to force someone even the President, to make such a statement? That sounds or reads as fake news and if they did do this they all need to return home to their constituents and explain themselves as they OBVIOUSLY are NOT performing their duties as representatives working on law and order of these United States.
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The resolution doesn't force him to do anything. But after being passed by both houses, it goes to him for signature, and he can decide whether to sign it, or not. It will be instructive to see what he decides.
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A resolution is non-binding, so it would not force Trump to do this. To require him to sign it or not forces him to take a stand about it, though.
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Why waste the time when there are more pressing matters as Health Care, rising Debt, need to find stimulants for jobs etc???
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It took hardly any time at all, as it was passed unanimously in the Senate and without objection in the House. And these kinds of declarations are important. Congress can work on multiple things simultaneously.
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Is still 'wasteful' as to time.
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Hardly. The increasing prominence of white-supremacist and Neo-Nazi's is a matter which requires condemnation from those at all levels of public policy responsibility. It takes very little time and it's important that the concepts of freedom and racial/ethnic equality be supported, as they are fundamental to this nation's existence.
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"How can they pass a Resolution to force someone even the President, to make such a statement?"

Because as POTUS, the Head of State, he does not just represent YOU and those others just like you that voted for him.

Which parts of ""I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

... don't you and Trump understand ?

How is calling for the ... well, what are the alt white supremacist' Nationalists' goals relative to the Constitutional Rights of "them" American citizens of the inferior races, exactly ?

As that is ultimately what you are defending, I'll have curiosity of allowing you you to define those goals, knowing that I could quote plenty of hatefulness, but in fairness what in hell do think that are you are now defending, really, exactly ?

No one says they do not have the right to express hatefulness, but condemning it, condemning Fascism, is not both not wrong, nor not defending the Constitution and some Americans' rights.

In fact, the a'hole talking about their heritage is one thing,, but how is it not our American heritage to reaffirm the sacrifice of all those that died defeating Fascism, some of whom still live ?
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As Belle indicated, this is a non-binding resolution that carriers with it no effect of law. However, it does place congress on record , and raises the awareness of a serious I problem in today's society. And most importantly it places our so called President in a position where he must make the decision of either doing what is right. Or doing what makes him look like the co'plete ass that he is.

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So to Cooter opposing Fascism is " still 'wasteful' as to time."

He he should say that to to these guys:

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Why waste the time when there are more pressing matters as Health Care, rising Debt, need to find stimulants for jobs etc???



It is not a waste of time when the US Congress sends a message to the president, it is not a waste of time when the public sends a message to the president, it is not a waste of time to protest. It's only a waste of time if you prefer to be a lemming and accept it all.
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Not sure I would sign it either, as it is sort of a form of extortion.
The point being that we did not actually fight Germany in WWII over racism, fascism, or anything else we claim now.
The reality is that in WWI and WWII we took the side of the global imperialists and colonialists, who are actually the most racist.
In other words, we did it for profits and business.
No one should let themselves be manipulated like that.
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Extortion is to sign up against white supremacy? Forget about WW1 % 2, this is 2017. It is not maniputlation, it is making a statement and I would imagine those who did not sign if are in favour of white supremacy.
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Extortion is to sign up against white supremacy? Forget about WW1 % 2, this is 2017. It is not maniputlation, it is making a statement and I would imagine those who did not sign if are in favour of white supremacy.



Have you ever heard of any race that did not think they were superior?

Most native American tribal names actually translate to "the people", meaning anyone else not a member of the tribe was not really human. The Japanese, Swiss, and almost every group is that same way.
Its like getting involved in religion.
Not a good idea.
It is not even really legal for a pesident to endorse or impose individual political beliefs like that.

What a president could say is that all political beliefs should be tolerated, as long as they do not harm others.
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No it isn't a good idea and thank goodness the majority no longer roll that way.
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Here's the text of the resolution, in case any of you want to know what you're supporting or objecting to:

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So to Cooter opposing Fascism is " still 'wasteful' as to time."

He he should say that to to these guys:

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So Geezes, explain to me what function as to my response that has?????

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Republicans are making a statement to put themselves against racism and fascism for future elections. It is an attempt to distance themselves from Trump.

It also gives Trump the opportunity to show where he stands, even if it's a meaningless gesture.

But I never thought that in 2017 we would have Congress urging the President to "speak out against hate groups that espouse racism, extremism, xenophobia, anti-Semitism, and White supremacy".

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[sign in to see URL] a good gesture from Congress but Trump will ignore it.



He should refuse to sign it unless they include ANTIFA. emoticon
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Did you all read the resolution? It includes urging the Justice Department to prosecute acts of terrorism by these groups.
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So to Cooter opposing Fascism is " still 'wasteful' as to time."

He he should say that to to these guys:

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So Geezes, explain to me what function as to my response that has?????



I say, I say, you are insulting my family heritage and disrespecting the death of so very many deaths in the War of Fascist Aggression, as you say fighting Fascism was a waste of time.

So live with it.

(Will he understand it if I make it sound conservative and like what he does support ?)

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Of course all the time they spent writing this resolution could have been spent on another bill to deprive millions of people of health care insurance. So you must see Cooter's point.
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No it isn't a good idea and thank goodness the majority no longer roll that way.



Actually I think the majority are more racist now than ever, but just don't admit it.

For example, how could people not be upset about things like "Shock and Awe", waterboarding, Guantanamo, etc., unless they were incredibly racist?
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A majority were and are against torture, Rigby.
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Trump signs resolution condemning white supremacy

Hours after he returned to rhetoric equating violence from white supremacists with those protesting them, the White House said Thursday that President Donald Trump signed a resolution condemning white supremacy.

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Think that maybe he had his fingers crossed when he signed this?
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No it isn't a good idea and thank goodness the majority no longer roll that way.



Actually I think the majority are more racist now than ever, but just don't admit it.

For example, how could people not be upset about things like "Shock and Awe", waterboarding, Guantanamo, etc., unless they were incredibly racist?



I think since Obama they have come out of the closet, they were always racist and Trump has made it worse.
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