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No kidding, maybe their own house.

As to Gulags, we do not force the confined to eat grass, we do not Run Abu Ghraib(Iraq does) and Bagram is an airbase NOT a prison even as it does have a US Stockade military jail. Guantanamo prisoners are housed, fed and clothed by the US, they do not have to rely on what they can scrape up nor do they have to work on endless functionless or dangerous 'projects' nor are they routinely beaten to prove a point they can be.

I have not heard of any 'Inhumane' killings by firing squads with a AA gun taking limbs off as target practice in the US r using starved animals to kill a enemy have you??
A bad load or not enough load of death inducing drugs is a far cry from where you suggest as 'Inhumane' as the human body will contort even as the brain has died as the muscle groups contract expand where nervous system signals continue to fire randomly. Have seen it in wild and domesticated animals, where in a human would be no different.
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I don't know how long Rachel's shows stay online until they are removed, Hawk. I'm sure removing that one before you saw it was not personal.

You can find bits of it on YouTube, but I'm not finding the whole interview anywhere now.
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As to Gulags, we do not force the confined to eat grass



indeed not! you force tubes up their backsides and pump food into them - but only if that doesnt interfere with the 'enhanced interogation'.

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we do not Run Abu Ghraib(Iraq does)



so why was it commanded by Brigadier General Janis Karpinski and why were the staff all US military personell?

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Bagram is an airbase NOT a prison even as it does have a US Stockade military jail.



that will no doubt come as a great comfort to the Afghans held, tortured and occasionally murdered there!


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Guantanamo prisoners are housed, fed and clothed by the US



and chained to the floor, tortured, and abused



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I have not heard of any 'Inhumane' killings by firing squads with a AA gun taking limbs off as target practice in the US r using starved animals to kill a enemy have you??



No but I have heard of prisoners taking over an hour to die, I have even heard of the execution having to be paused so that the executioner could take a break!



If the state is allowed to torture a prisoner to death then the method of really doesnt matter too much!


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the human body will contort even as the brain has died as the muscle groups contract expand where nervous system signals continue to fire randomly.



Ah! so that is what happened with Rommel Broom, his execution started at [sign in to see URL] at [sign in to see URL] when he ate dinner it was just 'muscle groups contract expand where nervous system signals continue to firing randomly'

apparently they are still firing randomly 5 years after his execution started (thats when the supreme court decreed that he shouldnt be executed again)

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You describe a FAILED execution to which no he cannot be executed again much as a hanging if the neck does not snap and the hanged does survive, happened more than once.

As to Abu Ghraib, you speak of ancient history as to the INDIVIDUALS in the prison running amok NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ORDERS to do so, different experience. As to the refusal to eat and effect to starve to death for martyrdom, I say go ahead and force feed them, keep them alive or if they so choose to be executed for crimes committed under military law take them out and shoot them civilly.

So what other fine examples of Government Gulag IN the USA do you have? Abu is Iraq, Guatanamo Cuba, Bagram Afghanistan.
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You describe a FAILED execution to which no he cannot be executed again much as a hanging if the neck does not snap and the hanged does survive, happened more than once.

As to Abu Ghraib, you speak of ancient history as to the INDIVIDUALS in the prison running amok NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ORDERS to do so, different experience. As to the refusal to eat and effect to starve to death for martyrdom, I say go ahead and force feed them, keep them alive or if they so choose to be executed for crimes committed under military law take them out and shoot them civilly.

So what other fine examples of Government Gulag IN the USA do you have? Abu is Iraq, Guatanamo Cuba, Bagram Afghanistan.



Removing anyone from the country of capture without their permission is a war crime.
Not treating Taliban or Iraqi prisoner as POWs was a war crime.
Any base under US control is under US law, so Abu Grahib, Guantanamo, Bagram, etc. were supposed to be subject to US law.
Every single soldier is sworn to uphold the Constitution, so has to defend those same right to any civilian. And any POW is automatically to be given POW rights until a trial rules otherwise.
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Incorrect bubba, they are entitled to MILITARY law ad justice NOT US law as applies to citizens.

POW is defined by Geneva Convention and nothing else unless a nation's military decides to something more.
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Incorrect bubba, they are entitled to MILITARY law ad justice NOT US law as applies to citizens.

POW is defined by Geneva Convention and nothing else unless a nation's military decides to something more.



When you enter the military and swear to uphold the constitution, then you are bound to the constitution's belief that the inherent rights of individuals is the only source of authority.
That means ALL individuals. Citizenship or location has nothing at all to do with the believe in the inherent rights of all individuals.

It is true that not everyone has full rights in a distant land under US military occupation, but it is only US personnel who do not. That is because US personnel voluntarily give up some rights when they enlist. Foreign nationals do NOT give up any rights, so must be given full rights as any US citizen would. They can be given tribunals instead of jury trials, but that is only because jury trials may not be available in some distant location. It is not because they are not afforded the same rights as as those in the US.
Anywhere under US control has to be afforded full US rights.
Anyone who believes otherwise would have to not believe in the basis of the constitution, which is the inherent rights of all individuals.
And then that would mean they don't believe in the Declaration of Independence either, which is based on the belief of inherent rights.
US rights are not supposed to be a privilege that can be granted or rescinded arbitrarily. The only reason rights can be ignored is if the person has violated the law, endangered the rights of others, and had a trial where a judge forfeit those inherent rights.
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The suspicion is Kim will now send even more missiles aloft, just to prove a point:

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While it sounds bad, it does deplete the little war monger's treasure trove of toys at his disposal. I have no doubt manufacture is up at a relative rapid pace but these machines have to be attended to deliberately during construction or as haste makes waste it also causes errors and faults they will not see until launched.
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 I say go ahead and force feed them, keep them alive or if they so choose to be executed for crimes committed under military law take them out and shoot them civilly.


Most civilized countries think force feeding amounts to torture - it is certain cruel and inhuman and your constitution has a few things to say about that.

As for executing them under military law wouldnt you first have to charge them? most of teh Guantanamo captives havent been charged with anything much less convicted.

*Only one Guantanamo captive has been convicted in a federal court

* only three Guantanamo captive have been convicted by military commission

*26 are being held indefinately without charge or trial

*38 of the current 41 captives have been held for more than 10 years


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