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Georgia gubernatorial candidate offers a bump stock giveaway

A Republican primary candidate in the Georgia governor’s race is giving away a free bump stock to “one lucky winner” in response to congressional efforts to ban the rapid-fire devices used in the Las Vegas mass murder.

State Sen. Michael Williams, who was the first Georgia elected official to back Donald Trump's presidential campaign, said there is “zero evidence” banning bump stocks would prevent gun violence deaths, and he’s giving one device away in a show of support for the Second Amendment.

“The tragedy in Las Vegas broke my heart, but any talk of banning or regulating bump stocks is merely cheap political lip service from career politicians,” Williams said in a statement. “In reality, the bump stock is the new, shiny object politicians are using to deceive voters into believing they are taking action against gun violence.”

Federal authorities said Las Vegas shooting suspect Stephen Paddock had bump stock devices, which increase the rate of fire of semiautomatic weapons to mimic fully automatic weapons.

Some Republican House members co-sponsored legislation to ban bump stocks after the Oct. 1 shooting, which killed nearly 60 and injured more than 500 people.

But quick action on that bill is unlikely. Last week, House Speaker Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said regulations are the “smartest, quickest fix" to address bump stocks, even though federal officials previously determined they were legal under current law.

Williams is one of six candidates in the Republican primary for governor, which will be held on May 22.

Like Ryan, Williams said politicians should discuss mental health awareness as a response to reducing gun violence.

“You cannot regulate evil out of existence,” Williams said. “Blaming guns or bump stocks for the actions of a lunatic, is the same as blaming McDonald’s for heart disease.”

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2017/10/17/georgia-gubernatorial-candidate-offers-bump-stock-giveaway/772104001/

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I don't like bump stocks, but they really can't be made illegal.
They have no defining aspect.
Your finger still is pulling the trigger each time.

And that is besides the point, which is really that any federal firearm laws are simply illegal.
The federal government can not possibly ever have any jurisdiction over firearms.
You would need a Constitutional Convention in order to make any federal gun law legal.
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And when you pull that trigger how much ammo is coming out per minute?
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And when you pull that trigger how much ammo is coming out per minute?



One shot per trigger pull.

The trick with the bump stock is that it makes the gun bounce back and forth against your finger and your shoulder.
So you are pulling the trigger for each individual shot actually.
The stock is a slide with a big spring.

Don't see how you can define that as being illegal?
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I can find it illegal when it kills hundreds of persons in several minutes. What else is it's intention?
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Yeah...I bet they're great for squirrel hunting!

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And when you pull that trigger how much ammo is coming out per minute?



As Rigby says, it's one bullet per trigger pull so the rate of fire is exactly equal to how many times you can pull the trigger in a minute. And while a bump stock makes it possible to pull the trigger far more quickly than one could without it, the rate of fire comes nowhere near that of a true fully automatic weapon.

I do think that these could be made illegal since they require modifying the rifle in question. However, there are other "accessories" that actually allow a far faster rate of fire without modifying the weapon at all.

This little gem simply clamps onto the trigger guard (no modification to the gun at all) and it effectively turns that semi-automatic rifle into a gattling gun (and the rate of fire far exceeds that which a bump stock makes possible)

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I can find it illegal when it kills hundreds of persons in several minutes. What else is it's intention?



No, you can't.
No one has that ability, much less authority.
Tell my how you would define a bump stock in order to write it into a law?

Laws can never be arbitrary, and must have definitions that allow people to know what is legal or not ahead of time.

First of all, the founders were aware of machine guns, and did not want to ban them.

{...The first machine gun -- called a defense or Puckle gun -- was invented in the 1700s by an Englishman named James Puckle. ...}

The current machine statutes say:
{...
Machine guns
This includes any firearm which can fire more than 1 cartridge per trigger pull. Both continuous fully automatic fire and "burst fire" (e.g., firearms with a 3-round burst feature) are considered machine gun features. The weapon's receiver is by itself considered to be a regulated firearm. A non-machinegun that may be converted to fire more than one shot per trigger pull by ordinary mechanical skills is determined to be "readily convertible", and classed as a machine gun, such as a KG-9 pistol (pre-ban ones are "grandfathered").
...}

A bump stock requires a trigger pull for each shot.

And so far the highest death toll is 54 in 11 minutes, so you are exaggerating slightly.
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