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Somewhere along the line, I recall reading about some varied opinions in regard to Sarah Palin blaming her son's behavior on PTSD. I wanted to see if I could find any reference to this, and I saw some articles in a search result, but this one caught my eye.

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A couple of the comments shared there:

"The fact is, people with PTSD still have dignity and they're still expected to obey societal norms like anyone else. Veteran or otherwise."

"Track Palin has to deal with his own issues, don't get me wrong, but there's no explaining away personal responsibility. It still exists."

- inthesedeserts Nate Bethea
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My paternal grandfather always maintained that my father’s issues of alcoholism, drug addiction and his resulting abusive behaviour were the result of his WWII experiences in the North African, Sicilian and Italian campaigns of 1942 - 1945. Given the fact that our understanding of diagnosis and treatment was far less back then, he just may have been correct. On the other hand, my sister who hated our father even more than i did simply believes he was nothing other than an evil man.

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I think life for a soldier during WWII was probably much worse than most can imagine. Yet, I also feel it's important to not excuse cruel behavior. There are well-balanced soldiers with emotional issues from military trauma; and, there are socially-challenged soldiers that may have additional issues beyond what they already had due to childhood neglect/abuse, or also entitlement/spoiling.

Children with abusive parents have things to deal with in order to become happy, trusting, loving people; if that's what they strive for, that is what they will become, it's a matter of what is in their hearts, imo.



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I nursed Viet Nam vets during that war, any war is worse anyone could imagine. Even I feel the grief still of what I saw all those decades ago as what really was a young girl nursing young boys.
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I nursed Viet Nam vets during that war, any war is worse anyone could imagine. Even I feel the grief still of what I saw all those decades ago as what really was a young girl nursing young boys.



It is a pity the American economy is dependant on there being at least one war in the world all the time. All the horror and depression wars cause.
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 These wars Yobbo talking about have gone on for generations. I now have a granddaughter born while her father was fighting who's home for a few days from basic training.

Even the news stop covering it, unless there is a larger than usual casualties. There seems to be a total disconnect, i fear it's because other people's children are fighting these wars.

most of the coverage is about politic

What Trump tweeted in the middle of the night followed by the WH going into damage control the next morning.

wash, rinse, spin, repeat.
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If anyone should feel empathy for Sarah Palin and her family, it is me. I grew up in a disfunctional. family, headed by a drubken, drug addicted, abusive father. How he managed to run a multimillion dollar international business has always escaped me. In any event I became a rebellious, incorrigible near juvenile delinquent in my teens. The final straw came when my father was prepared to once again strike my mother. And i assaulted
him. After our fight was over i was in excrutiating pain. But even through the pain i walked through the front door of the only home i had ever known, vowing to never set foot in it again as long as my father was alive. My father did not call the police. He just chose to ignore ime — letting me wander the streets of Trieste. My mother and our parish priest managed to find me, get my papers together and put me on a plane to Minnesota. Where i lived with my paternal grandparents for the final twoyears of high school. It was that strict, loving couple who brought order and discipline into my life. And it was by example that my grandfather taught me how to be a man, a husband, and a father. Things iwould never have learned from my own father. Andi attribute the fact that my own three children have grown into successful, well adjusted adults to both my wife, and to the lessons i learned from my grandfather. So, while i have empatheic feelings for her children, my distain for Sarah Palin is only slightly less that that which i feel for my father., as Katie said, Palin was a terrible mother. And her children had no chance in this world.




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I've thought for a long time that parents who have not taken the time to learn how to relate to their children in a positive way seem to think that the children will not remember. Really, children remember more than some parents may realize, especially certain events that stick in their minds. You were so fortunate, Hawk, to have kind grandparents that were able to give you a new frame of reference. It's this other source of information that can give a child an understanding of the vast difference between treating others with love or being too selfish to care. It can come from parents of friends or other relatives and usually the people who offer the healthier viewpoint don't even realize what a gift they've given.

In the case of Track, I haven't any idea how things went for him in his youth, but from what I have read, it appears as though there was a high expectation level of some kind. That, in its own way, is an abusive situation, I think, because it creates a situation of deep frustration as the parent does not recognize the child for who they are, rather as what they want them to be or expect them to be.

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You never know what will happen you can be great parents and have a child that goes wonky or have a child with a father like Hawk and end up an awesome person, which unfortunately is far rarer. I don't know what makes up the ability of so few to succeed and so many to fail to overcome an abusive childhood but I wish I had the answer.
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So, what do you think ... was Track a spoiled child? It seems so to me.




A good possibility. And one who wants to blame his irrational and violent behaviour on booze.

Not exactly an uncommon phenomenon.
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