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We have not banned 'dangerous dogs' so what are you on about with so called banning?
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We have not banned 'dangerous dogs' so what are you on about with so called banning?



Just that the government has banned heroin or tried to while not banning dangerous breeds of dogs that have suddenly attacked innocent folks and killed them.

What is the significant difference between allowing people to walk around with mountain lions on a leash and pit bulls on a leash which have gone out of control and killed people?

A fat lot of good it does to tell the loved ones of the victims in such attacks that the owner didn't treat the dog right or that normally the dogs don't do that. Frankly I get tired of hearing that same old song and dance about pit bulls being as safe as kittens unless they are mistreated.
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You can make them safer at least outdoors, muzzle them

In Ireland there are many breeds which must be muzzled (and on a short leash and under the control of an adult)-
•American pit bull terrier
•English bull terrier
•Staffordshire bull terrier
•Bull mastiff
•Dobermann pinscher
•German shepherd (Alsatian)
•Rhodesian ridgeback
•Rottweiler
•Japanese akita
•Japanese tosa
•Bandog

including any 'breed strain or cross' of the named breeds (American staffordshire terrier being a strain of pitbull for axample)

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So of 'Dangerous Breeds' should that then include the Pincher, the Shepherd or the Alaskan breeds? All can represent a dangerous animal at times. What of so many other 'Hunting' or 'Guard' breeds? All too encompassing to call for one's destruction and not the others.
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Neighbours of ours own a Rhodesian Ridgeback which is the mildest of animals. Our cat is more viscious.
So breeds may not be the problem; the behaviour that humans instil in the dogs is what may be important.
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It would be a real problem in itself to attempt to ban certain breeds of dogs, but it makes sense to have regulations, such as mentioned, i.e. use of a muzzle.

That is an interesting list of dogs. I didn't know all of the breeds, so I had to look up some of them. Although the behavior does have much to do with how they are raised, there are usually going to be certain traits that are part of a dog's breed. For instance, I see that the Rhodesian Ridgeback was originally bred to hunt lions and was known as African Lion Hound; the Tosa was bred for the custom of "silent combat" dog fighting in Japan.

I wasn't familiar with Bandog ... it appears that this breed was devised by an American vet in the 1960's to develop "the ultimate working/combat dog" -- crossing American Pit Bull Terrier with the Neapolitan Mastiff. ]Wiki page for more info

These are all some serious dogs!

The thing is that they are typically gentle creatures with their owners and are used for protection and guarding, which is what many were bred for, or for hunting. It is when they are not trained or ill-trained that there are serious consequences.

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The thinking behind the Irish list of controlled dogs is that these breeds not only have the propensity to attack but have the size and strength that if they attack they are likely to cause serious harm.

there are several small breeds which are notorious for biting - several of the spaniel breeds are subject top a disorder known as paroxysm of rage in which they become explosively angry (for no apparent reason) and will attack anything or any one in their path, many of the terrier breeds will attack anything they mistake for prey (such as a small crying child) but both terriers and spaniels are of a size that an adult can both withstand an attack and fight one off.

When we had our Ridgeback she was a sweetheart with the family but hated strangers and was a liability if they were in the house.

We once had workmen in the house and I told them not to go into a certain room because the dog was in there - shortly after one of them went in and I found him pinned to a wall with 100 pounds of Ridgeback standing on its backlegs barking into his face distance of about 6 inches!


Bandogs are a mix of pitbull and other breeds (usually of the 'molossus' type) in an attempt to make a dog even more powerful than the original pitbull

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I have found that Jack Russells are usually not to be trusted.

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You can make them safer at least outdoors, muzzle them

In Ireland there are many breeds which must be muzzled (and on a short leash and under the control of an adult)-
•American pit bull terrier
•English bull terrier
•Staffordshire bull terrier
•Bull mastiff
•Dobermann pinscher
•German shepherd (Alsatian)
•Rhodesian ridgeback
•Rottweiler
•Japanese akita
•Japanese tosa
•Bandog

including any 'breed strain or cross' of the named breeds (American staffordshire terrier being a strain of pitbull for axample)



I agree that if they are going to continue to be allowed that legally requiring them to be muzzled should be the alternate step. It wouldn't keep them from turning on owners in their homes but at least it would provide protection to the public at large.
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So of 'Dangerous Breeds' should that then include the Pincher, the Shepherd or the Alaskan breeds? All can represent a dangerous animal at times. What of so many other 'Hunting' or 'Guard' breeds? All too encompassing to call for one's destruction and not the others.



I have no problem with banning any of them that are known to have killed innocent people who were doing nothing to harm them.
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