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I agree. He actually killed someone.

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Your specifying that propofol is a 'very dangerous drug' almost suggests that those prescribed in this case werent 'very dangerous'



Narcotics can easily be used safely by patients if they follow the directions. Even doctors need to be careful using propofol on patients.

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Different states , different laws, different interpretation of the same law make comparisons impossible.



Different states? Both doctors were convicted in California.

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If a motorcycle manufacturer marketed a motorcycle that was unusually dangerous they would be liable for prosecution...



Motorcycles are already unusually dangerous compared to cars. I don't see motorcycle manufacturers or dealers going to prison for second degree murder when some motorcycle rider gets killed on one of their bikes.

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gun makers are protected by law (!) from actions against them for producing dangerous guns (2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act )



Which is nothing but preferential government BS. The people who manufacture and sell guns are just as much guilty of second degree murder when someone is killed by one of their guns as this doctor was guilty of three counts of second degree murder.

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HERE IS THE LINK about California charging drug dealers and those writing illegal prescriptions with 2nd degree murder.

 Jackson died in 2009, 8 years ago, back then they didn't have any of these new laws, back then we didn't have crisis we now have with people O.D.

btw, you keep missing that point that THE Dr. was convicted of illegally prescribing drugs to the two of the 12 patients that O.D. in her care. That means she's liable financially as well as criminally.
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the problem there is that Murry got away too [sign in to see URL]



I agree. He actually killed someone.

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Your specifying that propofol is a 'very dangerous drug' almost suggests that those prescribed in this case werent 'very dangerous'



Narcotics can easily be used safely by patients if they follow the directions. Even doctors need to be careful using propofol on patients.

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Different states , different laws, different interpretation of the same law make comparisons impossible.



Different states? Both doctors were convicted in California.

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If a motorcycle manufacturer marketed a motorcycle that was unusually dangerous they would be liable for prosecution...



Motorcycles are already unusually dangerous compared to cars. I don't see motorcycle manufacturers or dealers going to prison for second degree murder when some motorcycle rider gets killed on one of their bikes.

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gun makers are protected by law (!) from actions against them for producing dangerous guns (2005 Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act )



Which is nothing but preferential government BS. The people who manufacture and sell guns are just as much guilty of second degree murder when someone is killed by one of their guns as this doctor was guilty of three counts of second degree murder.



Problem with your mentality of the condition is loosing the dogs Philer. You release those shot with a firearms to sue the manufacturer for a user's misuse and then a car maker IS liable for damages when a car is misused, same for kitchen utensils, lawn mowers, EVERY thing imaginable and some that do not come to mind to often.

Cannot open that floodgate without MASSIVE collateral damage to so many other areas.
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Motorcycles are already unusually dangerous compared to cars. I don't see motorcycle manufacturers or dealers going to prison for second degree murder when some motorcycle rider gets killed on one of their bikes.



you are talking about 'comparative danger' rather than 'absolute danger'.

Not that you can in any way compare selling a motorcycle with with dishing out medically unnecessary opiates to an addicted person

Although I cannot find an instance of a motorcycle manufacturer being prosecuted for making a dangerous motorcycle I can find several examples of car manufacturers being prosecuted for making dangerous cars.

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If this holds as a final result then ANY product sales agent may become the criminally responsible agent in court.

Cars, Drugs, Guns, even Clothing or kitchen items. Then the manufacturers that produced those 'Perceived Weapons' will also be carrying liable responsibility. Loose one you have released ALL to the hounds.

Speaking of hounds there is also actions ongoing to pressure "Dangerous" dog breed breeder's as to their responsibility on presenting dangerous product on the public.

I ride as you most well know, I accepted the risk as had my insurer upon that purchase. I have found it is generally NOT the motorcycle as to fault in many accidents but 'Distracted' motorists failing to yield or cutting in front of, or driving into the motorcycle they often state "but I never saw the motorcycle". The laws as to lights on with the key, excessive lighting, many owners chroming extra items for 'Flash', high noise machines and people 'Do not see them'. My own machine is well over 900 lbs. dead weight, is just over 30" wide, lighting on EVERY corner, and is over 8 feet long. Very hard NOT to see unless one is distracted t a extent of disability or inability for they to be operating a motor vehicle.

Seen all manner of autos drivers simply unaware of surroundings drive off the roadway, drive into other machines, fail to register they are well too close for adequate stopping distance. It IS the auto driver in many if not Most cases at fault with motorcycle incidents. The bike itself is NOT inherently 'Dangerous'.
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Lose one? Loose one and it goes to the hounds, reminds me of what many said about gay marriage, then equating it with marrying an animal and beasitality. There is still(really there is)such a thing common sense instead of the absurd.
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And you discount all the current courts reviews BASED ON LGBT rights rulings as to Polygamy, bestiality, marriage to inanimate objects and so on. The courts have NOT tossed these yet as they do qualify under the rulings and the work to pare them down will be long term.
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I haven't heard of anyone getting a marriage license for a goat or the Eiffel Tower. They need a legal birth certificate....
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If one delves deep enough or is open to see what is really occurring the deviant in society are learning to use anti-discriminatory laws to their advantage.
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What exactly is "deviant" in that article - it speaks to agreements among consenting adults (the key words here are "consenting adults").

The other things you mention in your earlier post (bestiality, marriage to inanimate objects) don't fit - they can't give consent.
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