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The oath says "God" - that's a name. And if they're not Christian and are swearing an oath to that God they're lying (or simply don't understand what the words mean).

But that still doesn't tell us how eliminating that phrase would demean everything the scouts stand for.

Unless you're claiming the BSA is a church. emoticon

And to repeat - the word "reverent" does not relate to believing in god (any god).

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So how would eliminating the reference to God demean everything the BSA stands for?
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Why do so many Americans believe in fairy stories?
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Since cooter has run away I guess we'll never find out why he thinks removing the reference to god will destroy the Boy Scouts.

But since this thread started because the BSA decided to admit girls, this is well worth your time (both the NYT Daily and the Tweet)

Meet Elsa Moock, 10, who joined the Boy Scouts and has a lot to teach us about being brave -- and being ourselves. Listen to her on today's special kids episode of The Daily:

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Comments on the tweet are generally very supportive - reading the few negative comments it appears that the majority of posters never listened to the entire article.
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Since cooter has run away I guess we'll never find out why he thinks removing the reference to god will destroy the Boy Scouts.

But since this thread started because the BSA decided to admit girls, this is well worth your time (both the NYT Daily and the Tweet)

Meet Elsa Moock, 10, who joined the Boy Scouts and has a lot to teach us about being brave -- and being ourselves. Listen to her on today's special kids episode of The Daily:

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Comments on the tweet are generally very supportive - reading the few negative comments it appears that the majority those of posters never listened to the entire article.



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But cooter - I notice you're still avoiding the question I raised earlier. How would eliminating the reference to "God" in the oath eliminate everything that the scouts stand for?



Still waiting.



Now that you're back, we're still waiting.
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And waiting
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And waiting
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To myself that took the Oath to heart, considered it a gracious action to attest my belief in A god and not JUST a Christian God. We hade as noted a Hindu, also a Jewish and a Greek Orthodox, all believe in their own way but in a REVERANT way and swore that same oath.

A Atheist believes as NOTED in NO God, he decides to Not state to God his or now her choice so demeans all those prior that did. The Scouts I knew is over, Explorer Scouts is already gone, 'Boy' Scouts is almost there so yes I believe elimination of the terminology removes the value to the organization.

My Opinion, you can believe whatever you wish but to make the world 'All open to ALL people regardless of any consideration to 'Appease' ALL is as worthless as it gets as does No One any value just is.



You are being petty and mean spirited, the list of qualities is long and the word "God" in that oath should not disqualify anyone who met the other characteristics, including being reverent. Matter of fact they ought to take it out. The Cubs & Boy Scouts is where children can find mentors and experience the outdoors and learn from those that are not teaching them so many different things. It can make a difference in a kids life who doesn't have home support and could be headed down the wrong path and with all your complaints about kids, you should encourage it for all.
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I meant to add I think that is why Slenderman fit in so well with the one girls delusions and the stabbing. I would imagine they were quite vivid in her mind. One thing I learned working with these types of patients, there is no way you can make the type of delusions up they have, no one is 'home.' I remember my first encounters vividly, county hospital when they still had wards, I was 19 and horrified!
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