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Re: Democratic memo vote unanimous
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I find it amusing the Democrats have nothing more to state than to release a 'Counter Memo' they cannot support with facts, but they do it unanimously.
And just how exactly do you know it's not supported by facts? You have never seen it and you never will see it unless some brave Democrat or other person breaks the law and leaks it. It doesn't matter if it's supported by facts anyway. The Republican memo was not supported by facts but somehow that wasn't a problem.
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Re: Democratic memo vote unanimous
Steele was noted in UK as having admitted the fraud.
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2/7/2018, 4:32 pm
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Link, please, Cooter.
And I repeat triple-m's question: How do you know so much about the Democrats' memo since you haven't seen it?
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Some of the things in the Steele dossier have been verified, so there's no way to call the dossier a fraud.
Verified: Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page met with representatives of Russian state-owned oil giant Rosneft.
The dossier claimed Page held secret meetings in Moscow with Igor Sechin, a Putin ally who is the head of Rosneft.
Page vehemently denied that he met with Sechin. But in November, the House Intelligence Committee released a transcript of Page’s congressional testimony revealing he had in fact met with other Rosneft officials, including Sechin's subordinate Andrey Baranov, during a trip to Moscow in 2016.
According to the dossier, Rosneft officials used their meeting with Page to push for the U.S. to lift sanctions on Russia for its support of armed separatist groups in eastern Ukraine. It is now known that the Trump administration sought to water down a proposed Republican Party commitment to send “lethal weapons” to Ukraine’s army to fight off the Russian-backed separatists. [This would be plenty of reason to get a wiretap on Page.]
The Trump administration later showed little enthusiasm for implementing or renewing sanctions against Russia. In response, Congress eventually passed a law limiting Trump's ability to lift sanctions, which the president reluctantly signed after issuing a statement condemning it.
Verified: The Kremlin targeted educated youth and swing state voters during its cyber attacks in the 2016 campaign.
The dossier said educated youth and swing voters were a central target in the Kremlin's campaign of fake news and social media chaos, with the hope of cultivating their anti-establishment anger against Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. This has been proven by congressional investigations into Russia’s misinformation campaigns during the election, which also showed the cyber attacks were broadly aimed at a variety of voters, with the intent to sow divisions on heated political topics.
The Kremlin also successfully tricked American activists on the far-right and left into attending protests and signing up for self-defense classes in an effort to accentuate social discord, according to numerous media reports and analysis of Russian social media posts.
Verified: Trump maintains ties to rich businessmen from Azerbaijan.
The dossier said Azeri businessman Araz Agalarov knew the details about business bribes Trump had allegedly paid in Russia, as well as Trump's alleged sexual exploits there. Evidence of the bribes and sexual activities has never surfaced, but the connections between Trump and fellow billionaire are now well-established. Agalarov and his pop singer son Emin have known Trump for years, and both men worked with Trump on the Miss Universe Pageant in Moscow in 2013.
Emails released in July revealed that Agalarov’s publicist Rob Goldstone had written to Trump’s son, Donald Trump Jr., to set up a meeting with a Russian lawyer who supposedly had dirt on Hillary Clinton, as part of what Goldstone called "Russia and its government’s support for Mr Trump." Trump Jr. attended a Trump Tower meeting with the lawyer in June 2016 along with Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort and Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner. That meeting has become a major focus of the investigations into the Trump campaign. Goldstone allegedly organized the meeting at Emin Agalarov's behest.
https://tinyurl.com/y78zhtnh
The Newsweek article lists the things that have not been verified, but that by no means means they are fraudulent. It just means they haven't been verified.
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No, he did not make a national security call. His decision was based on one thing and one thing only, that it would help him politically. National security had nothing to do with it.
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Steele was noted in UK as having admitted the fraud.
Steele never admitted any fraud. And even if he did that does not change the fact that Trump released the Republican memo for purely political reasons and he will refuse to release the Democratic memo for purely political reasons.
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/apr/25/christopher-steele-admits-dossier-charge-unverifie/
That's not fraud
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Re: Democratic memo vote unanimous
quote: mmmjvpssm wrote:
quote: cooter50 wrote:
Steele was noted in UK as having admitted the fraud.
Steele never admitted any fraud. And even if he did that does not change the fact that Trump released the Republican memo for purely political reasons and he will refuse to release the Democratic memo for purely political reasons.
Trump's obvious desperation is written all over his pathetic face, but The Republicans seem to be willing to go down the drain with him! If the people allow him to lie as much as he's done with no consequences, it's all on us! The hypocrisy of these conservatives to pound Dems for the least little thing, then allow egregious behavior like his to undermine all our institutions is just about as disgusting as it comes! How they can ever complain about another Dem. president will be the height of ridiculousness! Standards have been flushed down the toilet & they know it!
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If you can't figure that out you have a lack of common sense, I don't care what your politics. How is the republican memo a fact when it was cherry picked with many pages left out, then altered, can the right explain that one, it is no different than a doctored video or cherry picked words from a video, both common for the right, whether FOX, Breitbart or Drudge and that horrid alt-right site.
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