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There's a simple solution to the problem of the devastating damage caused by AR-15s in the wrong hands.
Ban them!
That's what a rational society would do.
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Agreed
While it's going to be tough to get the existing ones off the street (best estimates have some 8 million AR-15's in American hands) it's the only way to do it.
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quote: shiftless2 wrote:
Agreed
While it's going to be tough to get the existing ones off the street (best estimates have some 8 million AR-15's in American hands) it's the only way to do it.
In the meantime the .223 ammo could be banned. The gun wouldn't be much of a problem without the ammo.
Of course people could manufacture it but we could treat its manufacture in the same way we treat the manufacture of meth. People caught making it or selling it could go to prison for a long time.
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All large capacity magazines should be banned.
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quote: In the meantime the .223 ammo could be banned.
there are already millions of such rounds in the hands of owners of suitable guns
quote: All large capacity magazines should be banned.
then you are down to arguing over the definition of 'large capacity' not that that would ever be agreed to at what ever level you defined large capacity
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4 Crazy Ideas Conservatives Proposed This Week for Preventing Gun Violence (Instead of Gun Control)
None of these will make schools safer.
1. Give teachers guns and Kevlar vests.
2. Teach children how to 'gang rush' armed intruders to take them down.
3. Bolster school security so that they mirror our prisons.
4. Punish people with mental health issues.
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quote: There are already millions of such rounds in the hands of owners of suitable guns-mais
True, but it's a safe bet that not all of the unsuitable owners have a large supply.
Banning the ammo could still have a beneficial effect.
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quote: mais oui wrote:
quote: In the meantime the .223 ammo could be banned.
there are already millions of such rounds in the hands of owners of suitable guns
quote: All large capacity magazines should be banned.
then you are down to arguing over the definition of 'large capacity' not that that would ever be agreed to at what ever level you defined large capacity
Not really, the Federal Assault Ban of 1994 identified no more than 10 rounds and there are several states that have classified what is large capacity and banned them. It was also on Obama's and democrats 'wish list' after Sandy Hook.
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Well worth reading ...
In my part of red America, no one sees guns as part of the problem
The right to bear arms is sacrosanct here.
Teri Carter
A week after the Parkland, Fla., school shooting, the note was found scrawled on our middle school’s bathroom wall: I’m gonna shoot up the school on 2-21-18.
That was the first threat. Within 24 hours, the elementary, middle and high schools in my tiny, rural Kentucky town had all received written warnings of gun violence, and all three schools, approximately 3,700 students, were placed on “soft lockdown” (told to shelter in place) while the sheriff’s office and Kentucky State Police investigated.
I live in Anderson County, Kentucky. Donald Trump won here in 2016 with 72.2 percent of the vote. We have 38 Christian-based churches to serve a population of 22,000, and lots of talk about God-given Second Amendment rights. When I moved here in 2014, the first question I was often asked was, “Where do you go to church?” Neighbors joked that the elderly man who previously owned my house, a fun-loving, retired military officer, kept a cache of guns in the closets and under the couch cushions. For security.
This is both Trump country and single-issue voter country. People here vote on guns, and people vote on abortion. Every other issue, every other considerable nuance, is nothing but noise.
Guns and gun ownership are sacrosanct here, and people who do not live in rural America do not understand what are and aren’t acceptable topics of conversation. Last Saturday, for example....
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Interesting article but there's nothing surprising in there. I live in Missouri in an area very much like that one in Kentucky. A "pro-life," pro-gun, church filled mecca.
What I found almost amusing was this part of the article:
"Meanwhile, this week in rural Kentucky, a 13-year-old girl was charged with terroristic threatening at the middle school and was arraigned in juvenile court and ordered held in juvenile detention. An 11-year-old girl from the elementary school was charged with one count of terroristic threatening."
The same thing happened in the St. Louis area where at least one 14-year-old girl was arrested for making terroristic threats.
I've got news for the authorities, It isn't teenage girls who are doing all of the mass shooting. You may not like their "threats" but they aren't the problem. Of course I'm not surprised to see young teen girls being arrested while a 19-year-old male with a shitload of guns who made similar threats is ignored and allowed to shoot up a school in Florida. It's the way our wonderful, biased justice system works.
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