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A strong point for better gun laws ... please, help spread it.


If teachers, well educated professions, already holding positions of responsibility need background checks and training before being armed, why do others buying guns not need the same ?

It is a strong point build upon the conservatives own solutions, that should go viral !

I'm not big on social media, so, anyone, if that is your kind of thing please, feel free to Tweet it, post it repeatedly on Face-book and Reddit.

You know, all the stuff that the Russians do.

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Here is how the anti-gun-regulation crowd would respond;

You can't have a regulation such a requiring someone to pass training because it could prevent someone from their 2nd Amendment right to own a gun.

It's all BS, because there is no 2nd Amendment right that everyone can own guns, not to mention the fact that this means we cannot require people to know how to use firearms before allowing them to own firearms.

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Yeah, so if they say that, ask if they their children or grandchild to be in class with armed teachers with no training.

Even when trained, !@#$ still happens:
See:

2 “good guys with guns” accidentally fired them in schools on Tuesday ...
https://www.vox.com/.../3/.../school-shooting-accidental-california-virginia-gun-contr...
6 hours ago - A teacher who is also a reserve police officer trained to use a gun accidentally discharged a firearm at Seaside High School in Monterey County, California, on Tuesday. According to the local outlet KSBW, Dennis Alexander's gun went off around 1 pm while he was teaching a course about gun safety.

Just saying ... and thank you John.
I think we all know what they alway say, specifically on the this topic after their "prayers".

Our talking about how deal to their party line mythology, fake news and propaganda and make it shine for what is is something we all really need to talk about ... figuring out how to do it well, better than in the past, between now and next Nov.
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Even when trained, !@#$ still happens:

Definitely.

They claim that the problem is always a "bad guy" or "crazy person", but that isn't true.

Of course a lot of murders are committed by long-time criminals, but how many are committed by people that never seriously broke the law until one fateful day? Like this kid in Florida. He went from being a troubled teenager to a mass murderer in a few minutes because of the fact he was able to get a gun.

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So I think this is relevant here, as my point is less about arguing with the NRA foolowers that suggesting how it be done better.

So re this story:
Mass killer Dylann Roof’s sister charged with carrying weapons at high school

http://bangordailynews.com/2018/03/15/news/nation/mass-killer-dylann-roofs-sister-charged-with-carrying-weapons-at-high-school/comments/


I have to say:
“The posting was not a threat ..."

Okay, from LEO's I get how, technically, it might not appear to a threat, but if I were a student at that school can tell us how you would explain that they should not feel that their lives were threatened by it, please ?

If you wonder why the youth are becoming politically active consider that are they being taught that that they have a right to "life liberty and the pursuit of happiness" that should not infrnged upon by nuts with guns.

Don't they have a point ?"

So what are strong or weaker point in that thinking relative to counter the well organized, well funded, pro-gun, anti-liberty, anti-democracy, propaganda and "opinion making" that comes from all of the elitist totalitarian, corporatists of the world, from the Kremlin right though the the whole right spectrum to NRC, include the Root family, Trump's poster family of "some good people on both sides" ?
  

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How many Americans know that in all other first world nations, gun laws are sensible?

Unlike America.
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Well that is good point, andI, for one, do understand, Yob.

(See my thread here: A strong point for better gun laws ... please, help spread it.) because as someone like you who seen other countries, and unlike the typical Trump American I know it is one world, now, and we (I) need your help.

We argue and disagree, you common Yob,
big ;, but just as you have always done, I hope I have earned your respect by doing so like good, real, men do.

So, while we might disagree upon some things. this is different. It is about who leads the world toward humane liberty ... our shared goals and values, Yobbo ?


Yours is a great point, but knowing that your time in America was not so great, your being brownish, and too well educated, but in all the wrong (geographical) locations, well so it goes.

So I get that having learned what America has to offer you now live where a nuclear war comes last. Me and Dr. Strangelove, can't take that away so good on ya. I know about that because I grew up at ground zero, on a SAC USAF base, as a kid, so good on ya. .

But not just in the USA, but in the wider world, as well, as a well traveled American, for the good of the world, between now and next November, we the few, the divided, the too, well too too Americans must figure out how to change the course, or who, the now Leader for life, the new Chinese Emperor, Xi Jinping of the new Jipinp Dynasty, or the ex-KBG Colonel Vad the Putin (both of whom are more likely world leaders that the reality TV star Trump) will be the and one the three will the "most powerful ... " on a much smaller earth.

So my point is as we both, each in our own way, are strangers in a strange land, but what can we common American voters do this Nov, to (figuratively) make your life, better ?

Please, Yob don't just criticize us, as your marbles are inthis game, too, now, true Squire ?

So bro, if you hang with us, be with us !!!
... PLEASE because Ben Franklin was supposed have once said, say at another time of great change, "we must all hang together or most assuredly we will all hang separately" don't know Yobbo ?








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I really wish Americans would see the light but it seems the older generations are unlikely to do so.

There is something embedded in the national psyche that demands the right to be armed to the teeth. This leads to acceptance that mass murders will continue to take place.

The best chance you have is if school children continue their preference for sensible gun laws and continue to press for them.
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I commented elsewhere that the authoritarian old farts, the RW minority really are are afraid of the high school kids protests, despite their usual denial of reality, because those kids will, just in course of natural events, make the RW extremist's worse fears come true:



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quote:

Yobbo wrote:

I really wish Americans would see the light but it seems the older generations are unlikely to do so.

There is something embedded in the national psyche that demands the right to be armed to the teeth. This leads to acceptance that mass murders will continue to take place.

The best chance you have is if school children continue their preference for sensible gun laws and continue to press for them.



I'm not so sure that this issue has to do with generations.

There are plenty of older people like myself that are for more gun regulation and plenty of young people that are not.

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