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I've read that it is thought that a child bonds with humanity through a parent's or caregiver's touch and sound within the first year of life. So, if this is absent, it seems as though it would have a very negative effect.


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I run across the walking wounded all the time i can never be around them for very long. I think human are designed only to take so much and then they have to break away.




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Portland OR., has a high number of homeless for the population, the mentally ill being around 35%. Our downtown area in not very large and you can no longer go to town and not expect to see or be accosted by a person who is ill and at times it is frightening. It has also infiltrated into the burbs. I can understand why you can't be around them for long, it is difficult especially for families and for medical staff, it isn't easy to cope when you are at one level and they are lost in space.
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Las Vegas, does as well.

I can't remember ever seeing this many homeless when the job rate is 4%.
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So is thinking that you can get away with firing someone who has two day, to reach retirement(on Monday)on Friday, something psychopaths might do ?
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It's not that easy. For quite awhile they had many of these personality disorders grouped together as so many shared similar traits and now they have separated many into smaller categories. Psychopathy is not easy to diagnosis but from what I see the accusation of narcissistic is hard to pass up. Manipulative, abusive, deceptive, pathological liar, so whether he is a psycho or not really doesn't matter the others are definitely enough for this country not to have to suffer someone who does appear not to be healthy minded. emoticon
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All concepts of science are developed by those in science, I don't see how that makes them liars. You have no clue what is or isn't "nonsense" or guess work, you are not educated in medicine to say what exists or not.



It doesn't make them liars or purveyors of baloney unless their concepts don't correspond to reality. The concept of some sort of mysterious character known as a psychopath is a highly questionable one and one that is at best misleading.

And you're right, I'm not educated in medicine although I did take one course of psychology in junior college. That was a pretty good introduction to psychology.

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No they do not make up the majority of the criminal populations, most criminals are not mentally ill and especially psychopaths, they are an extremely small (1%) part of the population. Because you don't think something exists doesn't mean it doesn't.



That's true but there isn't anything mysterious or complicated about self-absorbed, selfish people not caring about fellow humans enough to avoid harming them. That sort of psychology is common among criminals and can be found in so-called psychopaths.

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I can look at all the climate change deniers who sing the same song. Your opinion on this issue and they'res on that one, really hurts when you are trying to make a difference in a positive way. You really are hurting people by your opinion, just as the climate deniers.



I doubt that anyone is being hurt by my opinion. What I really want people to do is not take for granted that so-called psychopaths exist. My view is that we are talking about fairly common garden variety self-absorbed people who simply don't respect or care about other people. What I have described as very immature adults who have never quite grown up or learned to respect and care about other people. They are very much like overgrown children who have a very high opinion of themselves who view others as people to be tricked or manipulated into getting what they want. Since they don't respect them they may even resort to violence.
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I disagree with that set aside the violent ones, it's a horrible life, include the violent ones and dismiss their violence, did Aileen Wuornos, Jodi Arias, Manson, appear to you to be leading a happy go lucky life having fun times through childhood to adulthood? It is terrible to not have the emotions, thoughts life skills, personality traits that normal people do, it does the brain in cause they know and that is why they are often held accountable for knowing the difference between right and wrong, which to me I'm not so sure, they don't know enough. To me that is enough to state socio or psychopaths should not be put to death. None of the three I mentioned did I want put to death. I think it is outrageous putting mentally ill or those with a very low IQ due to what they now call "mental disability." (what was once called "mental retardation") that does not include a psych diagnosis and especially considering there are states who have done exactly that to both.



I didn't want Aileen Wuornos, Manson or Jodi Arias executed either. In the case of Wuornos she had been subjected to a lot of abuse. I'm not sure about Manson or Arias but Jodi had committed the same kind of crime that men in Arizona have committed a lot without being subject to the death penalty. The prosecutor tried way too hard to get her the death penalty.

Like you I'm not in favor of putting the mentally ill on death row. It should be reserved for people who commit murder who don't fall into that category.

You bring up another interesting issue. You question whether some of these types of people know right from wrong or do so sufficiently. I believe you're right to question that assumption. Many of them don't appear to know right from wrong.

Murderer Paul Hill is a good example. He was no psychopath in my opinion but he did believe that shooting an abortion doctor was not wrong. Why? Because that doctor was killing innocent babies. In his mind he was stopping a murderer.
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So is thinking that you can get away with firing someone who has two day, to reach retirement(on Monday)on Friday, something psychopaths might do ?



Yes.

Or at least the kind of thing people who are called psychopaths might do.

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... but he did believe that shooting an abortion doctor was not wrong. Why? Because that doctor was killing innocent babies. In his mind he was stopping a murderer.




How do we know the babies are going to be innocent? What if some of these killers who were born to abusive, neglectful, or drug-addicted, etc. mothers (I believe the FL shooter was born to a drug addict and was then adopted, but I didn't check that out thoroughly), had been aborted? Then all of the people they killed would have actually been spared by the lack of the killer's presence.

Just a thought anyway.





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