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BTW . Mais Oui


Ever hear of Ireland? How about the British treatment of the Irish population during The Potato Famine.?

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In Montana it took 246,000 to elect a Democrat. Senate seat are apportioned in the basis of population



Every state gets two seats regardless of population - from WIKI

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"The Senate is composed of senators, each of whom represents a single state in its entirety, with each state being equally represented by two senators, regardless of its population, "




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We have a representative democracy or, if you prefer, a democratic republic



that is my point YOU DONT!
in a democracy every one has a vote and all votes are equal and the candidate with the most votes wins.

California pop ~40 000 000 gets TWO senators
Wyoming pop ~ 500 000 gets TWO senators

this is NOT all votes being equal

Presidential election the people vote give one candidate 3 million votes more than the other candidate - guess what the candidate with the fewer votes wins!

this is NOT democracy

America was never intended to be a democracy the framers of the constitution had a very low opinion of democracy,

John Adams Thought Democracy Would Lead To Anarchy

Elbridge Gerry Believed That Democracy Flooded The Country With Evil

Alexander Hamilton Warned That Democracy Could Lead To Another Monarchy


Benjamin Franklin Didn't Believe Democracy And Liberty Could Exist At The Same Time

Fisher Ames Compared Democracy To A Fiery Volcano

Benjamin Rush Thought Democracy Was Devilish

James Madison Thought Democracies Were Short-Lived And Overly Violent

George Washington Believed That Democracy Led People To Make Bad, Emotional Decisions





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We sacrificed millions of people (military and civilians (on cargo ships - ever hear of Lend Lease?) keeping the UK armed and feed even before our entry into WW II.



Im glad you mentioned that - every boat, every bullet, every sack of flour was paid for America used WWII to lift itself out of its collapse by providing jobs for millions of unemployed workers we are not talking about an act of altruism here.


The US would NEVER have entered the war had both Germany and Japan declared war on it, the men that were sent into Europe were on a quid pro quo basis for British help in the far east


HOWEVER that is not what I was referring to I was talking about the recent campaigns in Indochina, Iraq, Afghanistan , Libya etc


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Ever hear of Ireland? How about the British treatment of the Irish population during The Potato Famine



what has this got to do with anything?

and how DID the British treat the Irish population?

(you DO know that I live in Ireland?)

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The Amritsar Massacre - What the British Empire Stood For...............



I missed the above post


I have no idea what an atrocity 100 years ago in India has to do with the electoral system in place in 2018 America



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Living there has apparently taught you nothing about it's history. You know even less about British history either. And yet you feel entitled to make uninformed comments on that of others.
 Are you saying that Britain never took part in the Marshall Plan?
 Ignorance is bliss n the mind of a fool! Arrogance is a frequent symptom of that ignorance!


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Living there has apparently taught you nothing about it's history



PLEASE instruct me!

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you feel entitled to make uninformed comments on that of others.



uninformed?
that suggests that my comments are wrong - I assure you that they arent.

Each state returns TWO senators regardless of the population the state that is a FACT

America was never intended to be a democracy - most of the framers and other influential people of the time were strongly opposed to it being a democracy - that too is a FACT


the Marshal plan is an irrelevence to this conversation, since it has nothing to do with the current electoral system of the US - if you want to discuss it start a thread and I will reply.


IF you can show that either of the FACTS I have repeated above are in error then show me - other wise STFU

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Seems that the US Senate it self is as ill informed as me!!!


The Constitution prescribes that the Senate be composed of two Senators from each State (therefore, the Senate currently has 100 Members) and that a Senator must be at least thirty years of age, have been a citizen of the United States for nine years, and, when elected, be a resident of the State from which he or she is chosen. A Senator's term of office is six years and approximately one-third of the total membership of the Senate is elected every two years.

https://www.senate.gov/reference/reference_index_subjects/Senators_vrd.htm

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Mike Pompeo was a congressman from Kansas, elected 4 times, receiving about 584,000 general election votes over that time, plus a considerable number of primary election votes. So you're wrong about him never receiving a single vote. He also was confirmed to his appointed positions twice, receiving a majority of votes in the Senate both times.

I won't repeat that process for the rest of the people you named, but I will remind you that they are serving now in appointed, not elected positions.



OK so you have me on Pompeo,
Mattis was a career soldier
Steven Mnuchin a financial whizz
Matthew George Whitaker a lawyer who stood for election in 2014 (he came fourth)
Wilbur Ross another banker
Alex Azar, a business man
Ben Carson, a surgeon who once stood for president (didnt do well)

As you observe these people are in appointed posts - the members of the HoL are appointed!

HoL has some 800 members, including 92 hereditary peers, but even these hereditary peers are elected to the house from the great mass of hereditary lords

 NONE of the lords are salaried

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never confuse America with a democracy

We're not a democracy, we're a republic with elected representatives.



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Short term memory problems, mais oui?


Nah, I don't think so. It's a just your Trumpish tendency to shoot off your mouth and then (when taken up on your presumptuous claims) try to backpedal by claiming, " I never said that!" Sorry kid but some of us can read (and know how to do research).

mais oui = SOUND AND FURY SIGNIFYING VERY LITTLE.

BTW: Oh and whether you agree with Trump's politics or not your willingness to adopt his "discussion techniques" is obvious and pathetic!


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