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A copycat mass shooting in New Zealand


New Zealand has stricter gun control than we do here but they let this mass shooter have access to guns. They also don't have the death penalty to dissuade people like this from committing mass shootings.

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Forty-nine people were killed in shootings at two mosques in central Christchurch, New Zealand, on Friday, in a terrorist attack that Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern described as “an extraordinary and unprecedented act of violence.”



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New Zealand has stricter gun control than we do here



NZ has some of the most liberal gun laws outside the US

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they let this mass shooter have access to guns.



Im not sure about the word "let"
America has punitive laws against murder but still they "let" 15000 murders happen every year! (that makes no sense does it? but then neither did your claim)



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They also don't have the death penalty to dissuade people like this from committing mass shootings



the death penalty which has been so effective in stopping mass shootings (indeed any type of shooting) in America?

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If you call this a copycat shooting, who are they copying, Philler ?
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Let him have the weapons, that hasn't been reported from what I've heard? The PM said he is Australian and although no ban semi autos are rare for a citizen to be allowed. Tough gun laws won't stop every mass shooting but it does decrease them by a heck of alot.
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Tough gun laws won't stop every mass shooting but it does decrease them by a heck of a lot.



They also provide the police with probable cause to stop and/or arrest!

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NZ regulations of gun ownership are ostensibly very stringent but it appears that the police have not been up to the task in some instances. I know when I have applied for a licence, the check ups were not slap-dash. Unfortunately there are many ways of acquiring illegal guns.

The perpetrators of this crime presumably will be found guilty and sent to gaol where they will be in close proximity with many brown men. Brown men whose ancestors have lived here many generations longer than Europeans. The murderers will not be top of the prison hierarchy.
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NZ has some of the most liberal gun laws outside the US-mais



They are still more strict than ours. For one thing they require guns to be licensed. Even if Trump called for gun licensing that would not go over well here among his political supporters.

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Im not sure about the word "let"
America has punitive laws against murder but still they "let" 15000 murders happen every year! (that makes no sense does it? but then neither did your claim)



Not a good analogy because the shooter followed New Zealand law and had licenses for his guns. He didn't violate the law and obtain those guns illegally. The government of New Zealand literally let him have legal guns.

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the death penalty which has been so effective in stopping mass shootings (indeed any type of shooting) in America?



Seldom used death penalty which isn't even used at all in some states. That kind of death penalty isn't going to function as much of a deterrent either.
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If you call this a copycat shooting, who are they copying, Philer?-Gee



This violent right wing cretin for one:

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Anders Behring Breivik, since 2017 legally Fjotolf Hansen, also known by his pseudonym Andrew Berwick), born 13 February 1979, is a Norwegian far-right terrorist who committed the 2011 Norway attacks. On 22 July 2011, he killed eight people by detonating a van bomb amid Regjeringskvartalet in Oslo, then shot dead 69 participants of a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya In July 2012, he was convicted of mass murder, causing a fatal explosion, and [sign in to see URL]



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A lot will depend on how much the authorities care about protecting him or them from other prisoners. When Jeffery Dahmer was sent to prison the authorities there didn't worry about his safety and he was killed by a fellow prisoner. But that sort of prison retaliation is generally not directed at mass murderers. Many of them are protected by the prison authorities.
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