Runboard.com
You're welcome.





runboard.com       Sign up (learn about it) | Sign in (lost password?)

Page:  1  2  3 ... 5  6  7  8  9 

 
Philer Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 12-2016
Posts: 4467
Karma: 26 (+29/-3)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


quote:

katie5445 wrote:

Anything that is inanimate doesn't have the capability whether dangerous or not is a given.
  I find it impossible to lump them all into one basket
I don't agree with your definition of immoral, either. From drugs to guns to cycles.



I don't recall stating what my definition of immoral is but regardless of anyone's definition, I don't see how using a narcotic for fun falls into that category if riding a motorcycle around in the streets and on highways doesn't.

In both cases you're risking your life for whatever fun you get out of it but normally nobody considers that sort of thing immoral. That only seems to happen when people use narcotics for fun.

If that's immoral, explain what's immoral about it.
6/7/2019, 12:02 am Link to this post PM Philer Blog
 
katie5445 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Administrator

Registered: 10-2016
Posts: 6301
Karma: 31 (+46/-15)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


We risk our lives on many different things which persons call a necessity. I don't think either are immoral, depending on the purpose and intent. I also believe the type of life a drug addict lives and one who rides a motorcycle, a completely different lifestyle. One can get you in vast amounts of trouble personally the other does not, unless of course your spouse objects.........
6/8/2019, 12:18 am Link to this post PM katie5445 Blog
 
Philer Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 12-2016
Posts: 4467
Karma: 26 (+29/-3)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


quote:

katie5445 wrote:

We risk our lives on many different things which persons call a necessity.



Riding a motorcycle is seldom if ever a necessity. Cars are about as cheap as motorcycles and you can buy a car that gets comparable mileage.

quote:

I don't think either are immoral, depending on the purpose and intent.



A purely recreational purpose doesn't make either immoral.

quote:

I also believe the type of life a drug addict lives and one who rides a motorcycle, a completely different lifestyle.



Doesn't necessarily have to be in the case of narcotic addiction provided you have legal access to your drug of choice. You can have a lot of control over your addiction and how you deal with it.

quote:

One can get you in vast amounts of trouble personally the other does not, unless of course your spouse objects.........



That is not true and as a former ER nurse you should know that. Riding a motorcycle is trouble waiting to happen. You can easily be killed and also seriously maimed in ways that you will be slow or unable to recover from including severe brain damage.

Narcotic addiction is almost a minor problem, or would be in a more rational society, compared to what happens to some people who ride motorcycles.
6/8/2019, 7:44 pm Link to this post PM Philer Blog
 
cooter50 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 11-2016
Posts: 4312
Karma: 2 (+15/-13)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


Considering a Motorcycle can average greater than 50mpg as opposed to JUNK automobiles to get similar, riding for enjoyment while also saving money IS a necessity. Take less space when parked, can still carry significant package loads and can carry two people generally.
6/9/2019, 3:28 pm Link to this post PM cooter50 Blog
 
Philer Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 12-2016
Posts: 4467
Karma: 26 (+29/-3)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


quote:

cooter50 wrote:

Considering a Motorcycle can average greater than 50mpg as opposed to JUNK automobiles to get similar, riding for enjoyment while also saving money IS a necessity. Take less space when parked, can still carry significant package loads and can carry two people generally.



If motorcycles are a necessity they are a necessity for a very small number of people compared to the number of people who drive cars. If they were truly a necessity I believe they would be much more common on the road. A lot more people with low incomes would be using them instead of relying on cheap used cars.

There are plenty of cheap used cars available that provide drivers with a lot more protection than motorcycles do. And they provide good transportation to where you need to go at reasonable cost.

I doubt that there is any real need for motorcycles at all. People have a right to use them but they aren't really needed. Just like heroin.
6/9/2019, 6:04 pm Link to this post PM Philer Blog
 
cooter50 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 11-2016
Posts: 4312
Karma: 2 (+15/-13)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


Bicycles then are FAR more dangerous than motorcycles, they have no engine so operate slower, they become road impediments leading to road rage, they also are targets not of opportunity but chance when one tops a crest or rounds a corner at speed and the bicyclist is in the lane and no time to stop. They would then e required for recall as being such a hazard and no way to implement effective rules of the road for them.
6/9/2019, 6:23 pm Link to this post PM cooter50 Blog
 
Philer Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 12-2016
Posts: 4467
Karma: 26 (+29/-3)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


I road a bicycle as a kid on busy streets without a helmet and never had a serious accident or traffic collision. One time I did pitch forward onto the ground when I unintentionally slammed on the brakes too suddenly but I wasn't hurt.

The odds of someone being seriously hurt on a motorcycle increase by leaps and bounds because of the speed involved combined with their lack of protection from impacts both on their own and from other vehicles.

I seldom hear about a bicyclist being killed but often hear about motorcycle rider fatalities as well as very serious injuries. Things like having their legs torn off.

If this society banned heroin out of concern for peoples' safety why shouldn't it also ban motorcycles? It could save lives that way as well as simultaneously get rid of motorcycle gangs.

Of course it doesn't really ban heroin out of concern for anyone. It does so because it considers heroin use immoral and a sin. It considers the dangerous life threatening practice of riding a motorcycle to be a personal freedom that isn't immoral. That inconsistent attitude is the only thing keeping motorcycles from being banned.
6/9/2019, 8:03 pm Link to this post PM Philer Blog
 
cooter50 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 11-2016
Posts: 4312
Karma: 2 (+15/-13)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclist_fatality_rate_in_U.S._by_year

http://www.pedbikeinfo.org/factsfigures/facts_safety.cfm

These stats do NOT sell news, they cannot be exaggerated as to the deficiency of a machine as to safety so they are relegated to second class news and stats as this.

6/10/2019, 12:54 am Link to this post PM cooter50 Blog
 
cooter50 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 11-2016
Posts: 4312
Karma: 2 (+15/-13)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


With that the Motorcycle Stats as to being MORE dangerous do not hold water:

https://www.iii.org/fact-statistic/facts-statistics-motorcycle-crashes
6/10/2019, 12:55 am Link to this post PM cooter50 Blog
 
shiftless2 Profile
Live feed
Blog
Friends
Miscellaneous info

Registered user

Registered: 11-2016
Posts: 2548
Karma: 29 (+34/-5)
Reply | Quote
Re: The motorcycle epidemic


quote:

Philer wrote:

If motorcycles are a necessity they are a necessity for a very small number of people compared to the number of people who drive cars. If they were truly a necessity I believe they would be much more common on the road. A lot more people with low incomes would be using them instead of relying on cheap used cars.



Sounds like you've never been to London - you'll see any number of motorcycles parked in the City (the business district). And they're not being ridden by people with low incomes. The riders are simply people who like to be able to beat the traffic.

If you don't want to go that far, look at Bermuda. Hardly a third world country but there are more motorcycles on the road there than there are cars.

quote:

There are plenty of cheap used cars available that provide drivers with a lot more protection than motorcycles do. And they provide good transportation to where you need to go at reasonable cost.



Reasonable cost? Given gas prices and the cost of parking in any city that's not really the case.
6/10/2019, 12:10 pm Link to this post PM shiftless2 Blog
 


Add a reply

Page:  1  2  3 ... 5  6  7  8  9 





You are not logged in (login)