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Guilty by reason of being a woman
Nothing unusual here. An innocent, abused woman spent 14 years on death row when the evidence of her guilt was virtually nil. Plus there was evidence of her innocence that was overlooked. Naturally she wound up on death row after another ill-informed, dumb jury found her guilty of capital murder.
https://mississippitoday.org/2019/04/04/michelle-byrom-who-narrowly-escaped-execution-after-14-years-on-mississippis-death-row-is-dead-at-62/
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Re: Guilty by reason of being a woman
I agree strange indeed that men never get wrongly convicted!
quote: Plus there was evidence of her innocence that was overlooked
Blame her attorney no one else
quote: Naturally she wound up on death row after another ill-informed, dumb jury found her guilty of capital murder.
Never happens to men does it?
"Two North Carolina men (Henry McCollum and Leon Brown) were exonerated earlier this week due to new DNA evidence after spending 30 years in prison, "
Ricky Jackson served 39 years before being exonerated
Ledura Watkins, 61, of Michigan spent an astonishing 40 years in prison for murder before being released and exonerated in June 2017.
Of course as these were men they were almost certainly guilty as sin (by virtue of being male) - Henry McCollum and Leon Brown especially even if they didnt rape and murder the 11 year old they might do it now that they are released
Ledura Watkins who was charged with shooting a 25 yearold teacher can he really be trusted out in society?
In 2018 139 men were exonerated - 4 of whom had been sentenced to death
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10/25/2019, 10:46 am
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Re: Guilty by reason of being a woman
Rank Name Length of Incarceration Sentence Released
State
1
Richard Phillips
45 years and 2 months
Life without Parole
2017
Michigan
2
Wilbert Jones
44 years and 9 months
Life
2017
Louisiana
2
Charles Ray Finch
42 years and 11 months
Death 2019
North Carolina
4
Hubert Nathan Myers
42 years and 7 months
Life
2019 Florida
5
Clifford Williams, Jr.
42 years and 7 months
Death 2019 Florida
6
Ledura Watkins
41 years and 3 months Life without Parole 2017 Michigan
7
David Bryant
40 years and 9 months
25 years to Life
2018
New York
8
Ricky Jackson 39 years and 3 months Death 2014 Ohio
9
Wiley Bridgeman
39 years Death 2014 Ohio
10
Elmer Daniels
38 years and 6 months
Life
2018
Delaware
almost FIFTY men served 30 years or more before being exonerated
and this woman got released after 14 years and you think she was unfairly treated because she was a woman??????????
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10/25/2019, 10:51 am
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Re: Guilty by reason of being a woman
It's not surprising that a few men, particularly black men, get wrongly convicted considering the fact that by far the majority of murders are committed by men.
How many white men compared to white women, taking into consideration the much higher murder rate, have been wrongly convicted?
Every time I see a case involving a white woman convicted of murder I hope to see much better evidence than the prosecutor had in the Debra Milke case as well as numerous other cases where white women have been convicted of murder on insufficient evidence. Otherwise it looks like that same old pattern is being repeated.
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10/26/2019, 11:23 pm
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Re: Guilty by reason of being a woman
Philer Im not prepared to chase around looking up information like some dog chasing a ball.
You have made a claim STICK TO IT.
"women" do not get a bad deal - this woman got a bad deal just a many men get a bad deal.
8% of exonerations are of women and that is broadly in line with the prison population
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Re: Guilty by reason of being a woman
Women do get a bad deal. I bet you couldn't find even one case where a white man was sent to death row based on a cop claiming that he had confessed to him. That happened in the case of a white woman, all by itself a tremendous indictment of our jury system in regard to its attitude toward women.
And I think you'll find that the men who get a bad deal are mostly black men, not white men.
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10/27/2019, 4:10 pm
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quote: Women do get a bad deal. I bet you couldn't find even one case where a white man was sent to death row based on a cop claiming that he had confessed to him.
please explain very slowly - because I confuse easily (apparently)
HOW does the alleged lack of MEN wrongly convicted have any bearing on WOMEN getting a bad deal???
of the last 2507 exonerations (end date 10/27/2019 )
1230 were black
929 were white
290 were Hispanic
58 were 'other'
I dont know what that all means but no doubt you will make something of it!
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Re: Guilty by reason of being a woman
If the criminal justice system finding innocent women guilty has nothing to do with prejudice against women then there should be a proportional number of innocent men found guilty under similar circumstances.
If that doesn't happen in the case of white men but does in case of white women that's an indication that it isn't an "innocent" flaw in the system that is to blame.
What people need to understand is that our criminal justice system does not operate purely on the basis of evidence. It largely operates on the basis of bias, prejudice and the various levels of respect that people have for their fellow Americans. Sometimes outright hatred motivates a jury to find some woman guilty of a crime she did not commit. Debra Milke seems to be a good example of that.
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quote: If the criminal justice system finding innocent women guilty has nothing to do with prejudice against women then there should be a proportional number of innocent men found guilty under similar circumstances
Oh do at least try and keep up!
8% of exonerations are of women and that is broadly in line with the prison population
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quote: I bet you couldn't find even one case where a white man was sent to death row based on a cop claiming that he had confessed to him
Christopher Abernathy (live without parole)
Allen Donovan (live without parole)
Amor William (45yrs)
Britt Timothy (25 - 30 years)
Caravella Anthony (life)
Chumley Tom Edwin (life)
Cunningham Henry (47 years)
Davis Robert (23 years)
Deskovic Jeffrey (15 to life)
Dick, Jr. Joseph (live without parole)
Edmonds Tyler (life - he was 13 years old)
Esse Eric (live without parole)
Floyd John (live without parole)
Frye Ralph (23 years)
Gauger Gary (DEATH)
Gray Adam (live without parole)
Hardin Garr Keith (life)
Hays Robert (life)
Helmig Dale (live without parole)
Housler, Jr. David (live without parole)
Jeffers John (34years - aged 14)
Kluppelberg James (life)
LaBatte Beth (life - a woman)
Lapointe Richard (live without parole)
Latta Jacqueline (50 years a woman)
Laughman Barry (life)
Lawrence Freddie Joe (100 years)
Linscott Steven (40 years)
Lobato Kirstin (40 -100 a woman)
McKee Dean (life aged 16)
Oakes William (25 - life)
Pardue Michael (life)
Parker Darrel (life)
Perrot George (life)
Peterson Jamie Lee (live without parole)
Phinney, Jr. Roland (life)
Ranta David (37 to life)
Rowan Jeffrey (35 years)
Scott Michael (life aged 17)
Simmers Ian (46 years aged 16)
Smith Christopher (38 years)
Springsteen Robert (DEATH aged 17)
Sterling Frank (25 - life)
Strong Jason (46 years)
Tankleff Martin (life without parole - aged 17)
Tapp Christopher (life)
Taylor Ada JoAnn (40 years woman)
Tice Derek (life)
Tinney Glenn (15 - life)
Ward Bernard (life)
Williams Danial (life without parole)
Williamson Ronald Keith (DEATH)
Wilson Johnny Lee (life without parole)
Winslow Thomas (50 years)
Woidtke Rodney (45 years)
Yarris Nicholas (DEATH)
Zimmerman Evan (life)
FOUR cases where WHITE men were sentenced to death wholly or in part because of alleged false confessions
and many cases of long (very long ) sentences against WHITE MEN wholly or in part because of alleged false confessions.
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