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I am registered Democrat, have been since I was 18, I can now fully rationally state I am embarrassed to claim such with all the temper tantrum hard whining, searching for any clasp to grasp in any chance of degrading the man that has been fully found as President Elect by those in office and in electioneering positions.

Sad day for the Democrat Party as they become a embarrassment to the nation as a whole over little inconsequential trivial bullcrap that seems to come out from under shallow rocks and found in most cases to be invalid.
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I dumped the democrats years ago. It was too embarrassing. Been Green Party from since Obama took too long in Iraq, and is still in Afghanistan. Only drawback is there is no primary to vote in. Don't see how anyone could support Hillary?
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 U.S. politics is embarrassing.

there's a lot of anger, stubbornness, and inflexible thinking on both sides to go around.



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I dumped the democrats years ago. It was too embarrassing. Been Green Party from since Obama took too long in Iraq, and is still in Afghanistan. Only drawback is there is no primary to vote in. Don't see how anyone could support Hillary?



As I've mentioned before, she is pro-choice while Trump claimed not to be. A presidential candidate who claims to be pro-life does not support female human rights enough for me to vote for him or her.
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We do not 'Need' a specialized party as Party lines by evidence mean NOTHING, the base ideal for anyone running in the next Presidential Elections should be they are not a Politician. Trump proved this works just have to get someone with a selfless attitude financing and into the office and then work on Congressional seats then to State seats.
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This is more than whinging, that was with Nixon, Reagan and GWB, this is outrage, shock, disgust.
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I dumped the democrats years ago. It was too embarrassing. Been Green Party from since Obama took too long in Iraq, and is still in Afghanistan. Only drawback is there is no primary to vote in. Don't see how anyone could support Hillary?



As I've mentioned before, she is pro-choice while Trump claimed not to be. A presidential candidate who claims to be pro-life does not support female human rights enough for me to vote for him or her.



A woman being pro-choice is not a sign of liberalism. Nancy Reagan was always pro-choice. And Trump always used to be pro-choice and liberal on gay rights back when the Clintons ensured gay marriage would be illegal.

There is no easy litmus test.
One can say one thing for supporters, but then actually do nothing. It is what they do that matters, not what they say.
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I don't think The Donald has taken that hint. I do hope he finds out though!
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None of the politicians in Washout DC or across the States have "Taken The Hint".
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I am registered Democrat, have been since I was 18, I can now fully rationally state I am embarrassed to claim such with all the temper tantrum hard whining, searching for any clasp to grasp in any chance of degrading the man that has been fully found as President Elect by those in office and in electioneering positions.

Sad day for the Democrat Party as they become a embarrassment to the nation as a whole over little inconsequential trivial bullcrap that seems to come out from under shallow rocks and found in most cases to be invalid.



I fail to see how you can write that considering what the Republican party has become.

The democrats have their faults, as every party has since political parties have existed.

But to criticize the democrats while ignoring what the Republicans have done and want to do amazes me.


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What some see as "trivial" I see as major, reading Trump tweets should make every American sick at heart, of course then we still have the shyte that comes out his gob.
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Why? Because we are 'Sensitive'? Or could it be he delights in seeing the frenzy of some directed tweet can throw so many into a tizzy over. Can you say 'Being Played'?
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I am registered Democrat, have been since I was 18, I can now fully rationally state I am embarrassed to claim such with all the temper tantrum hard whining, searching for any clasp to grasp in any chance of degrading the man that has been fully found as President Elect by those in office and in electioneering positions.

Sad day for the Democrat Party as they become a embarrassment to the nation as a whole over little inconsequential trivial bullcrap that seems to come out from under shallow rocks and found in most cases to be invalid.



I fail to see how you can write that considering what the Republican party has become.

The democrats have their faults, as every party has since political parties have existed.

But to criticize the democrats while ignoring what the Republicans have done and want to do amazes me.



Except that the democrats are doing it even worse than the republicans.
Bush only invaded Iraq, while HRC pushed regime change in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, and even Iran.
HRC is the one getting all the bank speaking fees. HRC was the one pushing mandatory private health insurance.

While I hesitate to differentiate purely on party basis, after the DNC committed so many crimes in order to support HRC, it is appearing that may be the case. The whole democratic party appears to have been lost to us, and now worse than even the republicans.
Never would have thought it possible.
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Bush only invaded Iraq



It is a strange morality which thinks that invading a country against the wishes not only of its government but of its people is somehow in tyhe same category as helping the people of a country shed the yoke of an oppressive government.

any way wasnt it Bush that invaded Afghanistan? (Oct 7 2001)Didnt Bush also instigate military actions against Pakistan and Somalia?
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Why? Because we are 'Sensitive'? Or could it be he delights in seeing the frenzy of some directed tweet can throw so many into a tizzy over. Can you say 'Being Played'?



"Sensitive," is that a new word to describe a person who thinks another is a complete arrogant egotistical ass that acts like a child, I wouldn't let the man dog sit.
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Bush only invaded Iraq



It is a strange morality which thinks that invading a country against the wishes not only of its government but of its people is somehow in tyhe same category as helping the people of a country shed the yoke of an oppressive government.

any way wasnt it Bush that invaded Afghanistan? (Oct 7 2001)Didnt Bush also instigate military actions against Pakistan and Somalia?



The thing with that is though the majority of people including the govt. were supportive of the invasion for a bit, over a lie. Many call that being stupid. What didn't happen and should when the tide turns you shouldn't have to be mired down for years.
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I certainly wouldn't allow Trump around my children especially my daughter!

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Why? Because we are 'Sensitive'? Or could it be he delights in seeing the frenzy of some directed tweet can throw so many into a tizzy over. Can you say 'Being Played'?



"Sensitive," is that a new word to describe a person who thinks another is a complete arrogant egotistical ass that acts like a child, I wouldn't let the man dog sit.



Indeed.

Assuming what Cooter writes is true, what kind of leader "plays" citizens and "delights in seeing the frenzy of some"?


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It is a strange morality which thinks that invading a country against the wishes not only of its government but of its people is somehow in tyhe same category as helping the people of a country shed the yoke of an oppressive government.

any way wasnt it Bush that invaded Afghanistan? (Oct 7 2001)Didnt Bush also instigate military actions against Pakistan and Somalia?



Bush relied on the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan until after the invasion of Iraq had been finished.
So both Iraq and Afghanistan were touted as liberation.

It is mainly Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, and Iran were Hillary wanted to subvert the will of the majority and impose an external government change by force.
Although Hillary certainly supported the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan as much as Bush did.
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This guy is clearly a racist but some of what he says is depressingly correct.

Jack Wheeler was the author of Reagan's strategy to break the back of the Soviet Union with the star wars race and expose their inner weakness.

    Written by Dr. Jack Wheeler:

    The O-man, Barack Hussein Obama, is an eloquently tailored empty suit.
    No resume, no accomplishments, no experience, no original ideas, no understanding of how the economy works, no understanding of how the world works, no balls, nothing but abstract, empty rhetoric devoid of real substance.
    He has no real identity.
    He is half-white, which he rejects.
    The rest of him is mostly Arab, which he hides but is disclosed by his non-African Arabic surname and his Arabic first and middle names as a way to triply proclaim his Arabic parentage to people in Kenya .
    Only a small part of him is African Black from his Luo grandmother, which he pretends he is exclusively.
    What he isn't, not a genetic drop of, is 'African-American,' the descendant of enslaved Africans brought to America chained in slave ships.
    He hasn't a single ancestor who was a slave.
    Instead, his Arab ancestors were slave owners.
    Slave-trading was the main Arab business in East Africa for centuries until the British ended it.
    Let that sink in: Obama is not the descendant of slaves,he is the descendant of slave owners.
    Thus he makes the perfect Liberal Messiah.
    It's something Hillary doesn't understand - how some complete neophyte came out of the blue and stole the Dem nomination from her. Obamamania is beyond politics and reason.
    It is a true religious cult, whose adherents reject Christianity yet still believe in Original Sin, transferring it from the evil of being human to the evil of being white.
    Thus Obama has become the white liberals' Christ, offering absolution from the Sin of Being White.
    There is no reason or logic behind it, no faults or flaws of his can diminish it, no arguments Hillary could make of any kind can be effective against it.
    The absurdity of Hypocrisy Clothed In Human Flesh being their Savior is all the more cause for liberals to worship him:
    Credo quia absurdum, I believe it because it is absurd.
    Thank heavens that the voting majority of Americans remain Christian and are in no desperate need of a phony savior.
    He is ridiculous and should not be taken seriously by any thinking American.
    And yet he got elected, not once but twice.
Thanks to those that did not think it was important to vote for freedom and those that were willing to give up their freedoms for entitlements.
Remember you don't have to be on a southern plantation to be a slave, if you are dependent on government entitlements you just have a different slave owner.
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Obama took all that crap for years with grace, especially on the birther conspiracy. Trump he's got time to tweet about how much better he was on "Celebrity Apprentice," and Arnies' low ratings and Meryl Streep's speech at the Golden Globes, he has more time to personally attack with stupid tweets than he does paying attention to the transition, does this man not have any common sense or an off button!! Those who support Trump really have the cojones to wonder why many folks are not optimistic, really??
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I dumped the democrats years ago. It was too embarrassing. Been Green Party from since Obama took too long in Iraq, and is still in Afghanistan. Only drawback is there is no primary to vote in. Don't see how anyone could support Hillary?



As I've mentioned before, she is pro-choice while Trump claimed not to be. A presidential candidate who claims to be pro-life does not support female human rights enough for me to vote for him or her.



A woman being pro-choice is not a sign of liberalism. Nancy Reagan was always pro-choice. And Trump always used to be pro-choice and liberal on gay rights back when the Clintons ensured gay marriage would be illegal.

There is no easy litmus test.
One can say one thing for supporters, but then actually do nothing. It is what they do that matters, not what they say.



It doesn't matter whether it is a sign of liberalism. It is an indication of some measure of rationality. A political candidate claiming to be anti-choice is indicating that he most likely isn't a rational person. And no irrational person should become president.

And of course I disagree that there is no easy litmus test. This is an example of one.
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Hard to agree to and respect your placing that here Yobbo. I could not have stated your candor any better.
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I am always amazed at the rabid devotion the supporters of Trump share. Consider this: The man displays serious indications he could actually be insane. His paranoia--he labels everyone who disagrees with him an "enemy", His narcissism-- he believes he is the smartest, most informed President-elect ever, he disavows any need for help from those with experience in government, instead hiring people like "oops" Rick Perry and Dr. there's no such thing as evolution Carson. He's announced he's firing everyone in the State Dept. the day after his Inauguration. He intends to destroy our intelligence agencies and replace capable experienced people with yes-men.
Some pretend he won the election. Make no mistake he stole it as easily as GW did in 2000. The voter suppression in battleground states won him the Presidency with only a 70,000 vote margin, after over 400,000 presumed Democrat voters were purged from those key states by voter suppression laws enacted in the last 4 years and illegally implemented. Add that to his puppetmaster Putin's devious ploy and FBI Director Coomey's treason, and Hillary didn't stand a chance.
No whine here. Just the facts. We are witnessing the preparations for a looting of the richest nation the earth has ever produced. When his term ends, there won't be anything resembling democracy left here.
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Cooter, perhaps I ought to have started a thread on hyperbolic rants by anti-Obama nuts. However, what I was saying was that chunks of that racist rant happen to be true, as far as they go. Half Obama's forebears in Kenya were essentially Arabic dominated and many of them would have been slave traders. He makes a sort of assertion that Obama must bear responsibility for the actions of his ancestors which is crap.
My beef with Obama is that he didn't resist the MIC and that, for no real reason at all, America has delivered more than 26,000 bombs on the Middle East in 2016 alone. Thus the empty suit jibe has some substance (to mess up the language further).

Frankly, in the years to come Obama will be seen, at least in foreign affairs matters, to be as ghastly a president as GW Bush.
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I dumped the democrats years ago. It was too embarrassing. Been Green Party from since Obama took too long in Iraq, and is still in Afghanistan. Only drawback is there is no primary to vote in. Don't see how anyone could support Hillary?



As I've mentioned before, she is pro-choice while Trump claimed not to be. A presidential candidate who claims to be pro-life does not support female human rights enough for me to vote for him or her.



A woman being pro-choice is not a sign of liberalism. Nancy Reagan was always pro-choice. And Trump always used to be pro-choice and liberal on gay rights back when the Clintons ensured gay marriage would be illegal.

There is no easy litmus test.
One can say one thing for supporters, but then actually do nothing. It is what they do that matters, not what they say.



It doesn't matter whether it is a sign of liberalism. It is an indication of some measure of rationality. A political candidate claiming to be anti-choice is indicating that he most likely isn't a rational person. And no irrational person should become president.

And of course I disagree that there is no easy litmus test. This is an example of one.




While I am of course pro-choice, I can easily see the rationality of the flip side.
First of all, we do make laws about defending the rights of others is not totally unreasonable. And second is that giving birth is painful and dangerous, so what if no one wanted to go through that any more? That selfishness would be the end of our species. And the survival of the species has to remain the prime directive.
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Thanks for the retrospect and clarification yobbo, still made a good impression. His legacy will be that of a do-little POTUS in the books as I can see it. Did little to resolve conflict home and abroad, did little but empty rhetoric as to change in governing practice and granted did sign ACA but that as in and of itself is a mess.

Almost forgot, did play a LOT of golf at the taxpayer's expense!

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I dumped the democrats years ago. It was too embarrassing. Been Green Party from since Obama took too long in Iraq, and is still in Afghanistan. Only drawback is there is no primary to vote in. Don't see how anyone could support Hillary?



As I've mentioned before, she is pro-choice while Trump claimed not to be. A presidential candidate who claims to be pro-life does not support female human rights enough for me to vote for him or her.



A woman being pro-choice is not a sign of liberalism. Nancy Reagan was always pro-choice. And Trump always used to be pro-choice and liberal on gay rights back when the Clintons ensured gay marriage would be illegal.

There is no easy litmus test.
One can say one thing for supporters, but then actually do nothing. It is what they do that matters, not what they say.



It doesn't matter whether it is a sign of liberalism. It is an indication of some measure of rationality. A political candidate claiming to be anti-choice is indicating that he most likely isn't a rational person. And no irrational person should become president.

And of course I disagree that there is no easy litmus test. This is an example of one.




While I am of course pro-choice, I can easily see the rationality of the flip side.
First of all, we do make laws about defending the rights of others is not totally unreasonable. And second is that giving birth is painful and dangerous, so what if no one wanted to go through that any more? That selfishness would be the end of our species. And the survival of the species has to remain the prime directive.



I can see the pseudo-rationality of the flip side as well as the irrationality of some folks on the pro-choice side. The problem for pro-lifers is that their view doesn't show any respect for some fundamental rights of women. That's an indication of a high level of irrationality that would disqualify anyone for the presidency, the senate or the house of reps.

And considering the birth rate in the world I seriously doubt that any pro-lifer needs to be worried about women deciding not to produce children. But even if that was a realistic concern, women would still have that right and wouldn't be forced by a civilized, rational government into having children.
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Cooter, perhaps I ought to have started a thread on hyperbolic rants by anti-Obama nuts. However, what I was saying was that chunks of that racist rant happen to be true, as far as they go. Half Obama's forebears in Kenya were essentially Arabic dominated and many of them would have been slave traders. He makes a sort of assertion that Obama must bear responsibility for the actions of his ancestors which is crap.
My beef with Obama is that he didn't resist the MIC and that, for no real reason at all, America has delivered more than 26,000 bombs on the Middle East in 2016 alone. Thus the empty suit jibe has some substance (to mess up the language further).

Frankly, in the years to come Obama will be seen, at least in foreign affairs matters, to be as ghastly a president as GW Bush.



I found what the guy said to be mostly a load of crap. Who cares whether some of Obama's ancestors were Arabs or involved in slavery? If the ranter looks down on Obama due to what his ancestors did he probably should hate himself as well as the Founding Fathers.
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Thanks for the retrospect and clarification yobbo, still made a good impression. His legacy will be that of a do-little POTUS in the books as I can see it. Did little to resolve conflict home and abroad, did little but empty rhetoric as to change in governing practice and granted did sign ACA but that as in and of itself is a mess.

Almost forgot, did play a LOT of golf at the taxpayer's expense!



He accomplished a few things of merit. Why do we seldom hear about Al Qaeda anymore? Or Bin Laden? Obama practically eradicated Al Qaeda. He certainly decimated its top leadership.

He also appears to have brought the American economy back from the brink and may have saved the American auto industry. He also got the price of gas down to a level that people could actually afford. That savings in gas more than made up for any taxpayer's expense he racked up by playing golf.

I do wish he'd have saved that money and practiced his bowling in the White House's bowling alley instead of playing so much golf. But he's apparently one of those guys who prefers walking on a big lawn and hitting a little white ball around.



 

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