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Sorry, I hardly care about white or black men or women in the US, when the biggest problem is the people in the US supporting mass murder all over the world, constantly.
This like the mass murder of 3 million Vietnamese, half a million Iraqis, a million or so Libyans, etc., is way higher on the list. And women and minorities in the US are just as guilty.

The fact we now are hiring police form ex military vets and they are starting to abuse the priviledged in the US, the way they used to abuse people over seas, seems more humorous and ironic to me than anything else.

You can't have a nice country after you have consistently ordered our youth to abuse people in other countries.-Rigby



Why would you expect our government to refrain from harming people in foreign countries when it doesn't even treat half of our citizens equally under the law? Also, a government that locks up people in prison who haven't done anything wrong is not going to be reliable in how it deals with people in foreign countries. Our government has routinely done that in its "war on drugs." That "war on drugs" is a very corrupting influence which greatly helps to generate the kind of dangerous and destructive government we have.

If we don't fix the problems we have in this country first and establish a civilized society then we can expect to have a rogue government that attacks people in foreign countries. A corrupt government like ours with the power it has to wreak havoc in the world is like a bull elephant in a china shop. It will find phony excuses for foreign intervention and acts of war just like it believes it has a justification to lock innocent people up in prison on drug charges.
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Getting back to Bill Burr, I want people to be offensive in the context of a comic dialog. Its like George Carlin or Lenny Bruce, is that only by bringing up these subjects in those arenas, do we get any chance to think about or discuss them at all. We can say they were wrong or right, but it does not matter, because they only said it to get a reaction, so it is not serious. No harm is done.



Did Carlin or Lenny Bruce ever use the B word? I don't recall them ever using it. Lenny did use the N word to make a point. He was trying to get people to freely use the word to reduce its impact and to stop making such a big deal about it. So that it wouldn't hurt black people so much when they heard it used by white people.

Like I said, Burr didn't cross any line. That illustrates the problem. If he had really been provocative to any significant extent he would have been taking a little bit of a risk rather than simply going along with what this society already tolerates - discrimination and disrespect directed toward white women. They are a safe target for white male comedians or any comedians.

If you want to truly provoke and stir up controversy you have to pick on some ethnic, racial or sexual minority, not women and especially not white women. The safest target in the world for comics.
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Lenny Bruce was truly provocative, even more than George Carlin, although Carlin was also. Lenny got into trouble more for being provocative and questioning the status quo than for narcotics.

I recommend the documentary about him, "Swear To Tell the Truth." It was a revelation to me to find out the entity that was primarily behind his harassment by the police and the censorship of his comic monologues. It was of all the things, the Catholic Church. Catholics really didn't like his comedy and in some of the cities he performed in they had a lot of influence in local governments. That led to him being arrested and charged with performing indecent comedy routines.

The Catholic Church has probably played a bigger role in censorship and stifling American cultural life than what most people realize. Some large cities like St. Louis seem to have been overly influenced by Catholics in the local government.
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All good points in the last 3 posts.
It could be the Catholic church is still carrying out the same Medieval policies like Inquisition, conquistadors, burning heretics, etc., only more secretively, and that may be behind our foreign wars, war on drugs, censorship, etc. Hard to say?

As for women, the Margaret Thatcher and Hillary types drive me crazy. They are far worse than any of the men causing problems. Even the Elizabeth Warren types I find too shrill. The women in politics I do like, such as Tulsi Gabbard, do not seem to get any traction? So it makes me wonder if US politics are so corrupt that it precludes good people?
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So it goes to Hillary, Thatcher, Warren are to "shill." Got it.
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So it goes to Hillary, Thatcher, Warren are to "shill." Got it.



Don't be silly, I said Hillary and Thatcher committed mass murder of innocent people, not being too shrill.
It is Warren who I said appeared too shrill.
And shrill means using too much anger in one's voice when it is not necessary or appropriate, which makes one seem to impose instead of explain.
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Warren is assertive, passionate and not shill.
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Then that shows you are misogynic. Women do take things seriously outside the US, to say otherwise, well you are who you are......you want us to be so bothered about Solimeni, then be bothered about our rights domestically, first. This is a clue, really evil things in this country happen to women, far more than men, whether by race, ethnicity and religion. "Rebalance" starts at home.



I disagree.
Women at home are not be sliced and diced by a cruise missile with blades. That is incredibly horrific. Designed to invoke as much terrorism as possible. Almost nothing could be worse.
Its a question of human empathy, something most US citizens seem to have a shortage of.
So far, I am not impressed with the women of the US.
Except for Bernadine Dorn and Jane Fonda, there were not that many in the anti Vietnam movement. There were none of I know of in the anti Iraq war movement.



Because they are not famous. You left out Joan Baez, Judy Collins and Angela Davis, who I saw speak, twice. I would check your statements before posting, none I know of, doesn't count.
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Getting back to Bill Burr, I want people to be offensive in the context of a comic dialog. Its like George Carlin or Lenny Bruce, is that only by bringing up these subjects in those arenas, do we get any chance to think about or discuss them at all. We can say they were wrong or right, but it does not matter, because they only said it to get a reaction, so it is not serious. No harm is done.



Did Carlin or Lenny Bruce ever use the B word? I don't recall them ever using it. Lenny did use the N word to make a point. He was trying to get people to freely use the word to reduce its impact and to stop making such a big deal about it. So that it wouldn't hurt black people so much when they heard it used by white people.

Like I said, Burr didn't cross any line. That illustrates the problem. If he had really been provocative to any significant extent he would have been taking a little bit of a risk rather than simply going along with what this society already tolerates - discrimination and disrespect directed toward white women. They are a safe target for white male comedians or any comedians.

If you want to truly provoke and stir up controversy you have to pick on some ethnic, racial or sexual minority, not women and especially not white women. The safest target in the world for comics.



You would have to do research to know if Bruce used the "B" word. Carlin went way farther, the "C" word.
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Warren is assertive, passionate and not shill.



Personally I likely agree.
I am just saying why some others have said why they think she is not getting the traction she likely should.
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