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Man Accidentally Shoots Himself at NRA Headquarters


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Man Accidentally Shoots Himself at NRA Headquarters: Police

The employee suffered a minor wound to his lower body and was taken to a hospital for treatment, according to Fairfax county police

A National Rifle Association employee accidentally shot himself while doing firearms training at the organization's headquarters, according to police.

The 46-year-old man's pistol accidentally discharged Thursday afternoon as he holstered the gun in Fairfax County, Virginia, police said.

The accidental shooting happened at the NRA's National Firearms Museum at 11250 Waples Mill Road in Fairfax.

The employee suffered a minor wound to his lower body and was taken to a hospital for treatment, police said.

Officers worked with the Commonwealth's Attorney's Office and no charges are expected, according to police.

News4 has reached out to the NRA for comment, but has not received an immediate response.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/Man-Accidentally-Shoots-Himself-at-NRA-Headquarters-418677433.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_DCBrand&cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma

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I saw a video once of an NRA gun safety expert training high school students when he accidently shot himself in the foot. emoticon

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Don't see any relevance to this at all?
Of course handling a firearm can lead to an accidental discharge.
It happens very frequently with police.
Does that mean we should disarm police?
Clearly the police do not need to be armed, since no one is attacking the police.
But average citizens are often attacked.
So while your post does suggest we should disarm police, it does not at all suggest anything else.
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Howl appropriate.

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quote:

Don't see any relevance to this at all?
Of course handling a firearm can lead to an accidental discharge



so you accept that firearms are inherently dangerous?

Earlier you seemed to suggest that negligent discharges could be completely avoided by proper training

you said
"So a list of 5 accidental shootings that could easily have been corrected with a little training"

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quote:

mais oui wrote:

quote:

Don't see any relevance to this at all?
Of course handling a firearm can lead to an accidental discharge



so you accept that firearms are inherently dangerous?

Earlier you seemed to suggest that negligent discharges could be completely avoided by proper training

you said
"So a list of 5 accidental shootings that could easily have been corrected with a little training"




If something were not inherently dangerous, they would be totally useless for defense.

But that has nothing to do with the fact "that negligent discharges can be completely avoided by proper training".
How inherently dangerous something is has nothing to do with whether or not bad consequences can be avoided.
For example, nuclear weapons are inherently dangerous, and yet not a single one has accidentally gone off.
You never seem to make any sense.
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This accidental discharge violated several standard rules.
Normally one should not leave a round in the chamber.
If you do, then it can still be made safe simply by ensuring the hammer is no cocked.
But even then, all one has to do is to put the safety on, and it can't accidentally go off, for any reason.

So obviously this person has to be a total bozo, who deliberately chambered a round, cocked the hammer, and left the safety off.
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If something were not inherently dangerous, they would be totally useless for defense.

That isn't true. I would say a flak jacket is one example of something used for defense that isn't dangerous.



But that has nothing to do with the fact "that negligent discharges can be completely avoided by proper training".

In a perfect world, yes. But of course we don't live in such a world, we live in one where humans make mistakes all the time. Sometimes those mistakes injure or even kill people.

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it can't accidentally go off, for any reason



Wow a malfunction proof gun!
thats quite something - you should patent it!


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So obviously this person has to be a total bozo, who deliberately chambered a round, cocked the hammer, and left the safety off.



and there are several thousand such bozos every year!


 

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mais oui wrote:

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it can't accidentally go off, for any reason



Wow a malfunction proof gun!
thats quite something - you should patent it!


quote:

So obviously this person has to be a total bozo, who deliberately chambered a round, cocked the hammer, and left the safety off.



and there are several thousand such bozos every year!


 




There have almost never been any accidental discharges from a malfunctioning firearm, ever.
When those rare cases to occur, the firearm is recalled or fixed.
Accidental discharges are almost always user error, that can only be fixed by training.

No, almost all accidental discharges are when the person is using the firearm and has deliberately chambered a round, cocked the hammer, and turned the safety off, because they are in the process of deliberately firing it. And in which case the final precaution for that is to never point at what you do not intend to shoot.

Most accidental discharges are from people doing things like climbing a fence with it ready, or dropping it.
And there are NOT thousands a year like you claim. I have never heard of more than a dozen a year. I know of no one who has ever had an accidental discharge, and the ones I read about are very rare. Gun shows have thousands of guns that are handled all the time, and only once have I ever read about an accidental discharge at a gun show.
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