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Psychiatric scholars say Trump really is a loon.



It's Official: Top Psychiatrists at Yale Conference Warn That Trump Has a 'Dangerous Mental Illness'
Trump's mental health could have a dangerous impact on the American people.
By Brad Reed / Raw Story
April 21, 2017

35 psychiatrists this week gathered at a conference at Yale to sound the alarm on what they believe is President Donald Trump’s “dangerous mental illness.”

Per Independant, the psychiatrists met at Yale’s School of Medicine on Thursday to talk about Donald Trump’s mental health, which they warned was frighteningly unstable.

“We have an ethical responsibility to warn the public about Donald Trump’s dangerous mental illness,” said Dr. John Gartner, a practicing psychotherapist who advised psychiatric residents at Johns Hopkins University Medical School and who has in the past warned Trump is a “psychiatric Frankenstein monster.”

Gartner and other psychiatrists at the conference argued that Trump suffers from a particularly malignant case of pathological narcissism, which makes him a danger to the country and the world.

“Worse than just being a liar or a narcissist, in addition he is paranoid, delusional and grandiose thinking and he proved that to the country the first day he was president,” Gartner explained. “If Donald Trump really believes he had the largest crowd size in history, that’s delusional.”
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i don't think you have to be a scholar to come to this conclusion, just saying.

That said, i thought they weren't suppose to give out public diagnosis on well known individuals. i remember years ago i wanted to know what Glenn Close character in fatal attraction mental condition was. Nobody would publicly comment. Granted she was a character and our president is real. please pinch me so i know i'm not dreaming that he is our president.

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Do you think the deplorables care? I don't think they do and I doubt Trump cares either.

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Yes - psychiatrists and psychologists who offer up this kind of assessment are violating their professional standards of conduct.
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gopqed wrote:

Yes - psychiatrists and psychologists who offer up this kind of assessment are violating their professional standards of conduct.



Yes, I was reading the same thing earlier today.

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I meant to add to the OP that I understood that mental health professionals are expected to keep their opinions to themselves.
Still, even blind Freddy can see that Trump is quite a few beads short of a necklace.
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They aren't treating patients, they are educators and part of education is "social phenomena," that would include Trump.
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Since 1973, the American Psychiatric Association and its members have abided by a principle commonly known as “the Goldwater Rule,” which prohibits psychiatrists from offering opinions on someone they have not personally evaluated. The rule is so named because of its association with an incident that took place during the 1964 presidential election. During that election, Fact magazine published a survey in which they queried some 12,356 psychiatrists on whether candidate Sen. Barry Goldwater, the GOP nominee, was psychologically fit to be president. A total of 2,417 of those queried responded, with 1,189 saying that Goldwater was unfit to assume the presidency.

While there was no formal policy in place at the time that survey was published, the ethical implications of the Goldwater survey, in which some responding doctors even issued specific diagnoses without ever having examined him personally, became immediately clear. This large, very public ethical misstep by a significant number of psychiatrists violated the spirit of the ethical code that we live by as physicians, and could very well have eroded public confidence in psychiatry.

We live in an age where information on a given individual is easier to access and more abundant than ever before, particularly if that person happens to be a public figure. With that in mind, I can understand the desire to get inside the mind of a Presidential candidate. I can also understand how a patient might feel if they saw their doctor offering an uninformed medical opinion on someone they have never examined. A patient who sees that might lose confidence in their doctor, and would likely feel stigmatized by language painting a candidate with a mental disorder (real or perceived) as “unfit” or “unworthy” to assume the Presidency.

Simply put, breaking the Goldwater Rule is irresponsible, potentially stigmatizing, and definitely unethical.

The Goldwater Rule is published as an annotation in the Principles of Medical Ethics with Annotations Especially Applicable to Psychiatry.



https://www.psychiatry.org/news-room/apa-blogs/apa-blog/2016/08/the-goldwater-rule
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The “Goldwater Rule:”
 
On occasion psychiatrists are asked for an opinion about an individual who is in the light of public attention or who has disclosed information about himself/herself through public media. In such circumstances, a psychiatrist may share with the public his or her expertise about psychiatric issues in general. However, it is unethical for a psychiatrist to offer a professional opinion unless he or she has conducted an examination and has been granted proper authorization for such a statement.”

— Principles of Medical Ethics with Annotations Especially Applicable to Psychiatry
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Think of it this way: How accurate would a psychiatric evaluation of you be if it was based on your comments on this and other websites?

The problem is that people say many things for different reasons. These comments don't always give insight into their thinking and true state of mind.

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