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Rigby5
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
Pence would be 1000 times worse than Trump because he is a religious crusader, and would continue massacring Muslims like Bush, Obama, and Hillary did and wanted to.
So far, Trump has not shown any desire for crusades in the Mideast.
That makes him better.
You are confusing who looks more presidential, with who would actually do a better job.
And the one who actually does the best, is the one who does nothing at all.
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
What are you talking about, Trump hates Muslims. Trump will destroy the ME and make those gone before amateurs.
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Rigby5
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
quote: katie5445 wrote:
What are you talking about, Trump hates Muslims. Trump will destroy the ME and make those gone before amateurs.
Nonsense.
Trump grew up in NYC, and has traveled around the world more than most people.
He has conducted thousands of transactions with Muslims.
You are taking the campaign talk as if it is real.
That would be as foolish as actually believing Hillary when she claimed to want to help poor people and make health care affordable.
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
The 'Muslim ban' came after the election and I am 100% against Trump on that doozy. Trump would kiss anyone's ass to make a buck. Hillary did help the poor and she did want to make healthcare affordable, that she made some lectures and money to pharma that were out of order for many dems, which I've read quite a few, she kissed assed but sometimes you know ass kissing works, as you said you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar. All politicians that are in a position to run for high office play the game. Don't forget, I supported Sanders, my vote was the same as many republicans, a vote against Hillary, I voted party against Trump as the alternative made me sick to so did the choice of wasting a vote against Trump and writing in Sanders name, or my own......
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
gopqed, there are advantages of living in the South Pacific. I don't need to clamber under my bed.
I tend to agree with most of Katie's points, Trump is an abomination who has gone back on the only portion of his policy plank that had any virtue. Now that he has embraced the deep state, takes orders from the M.I.C. He is a waste of oxygen.
But dreadful though he may be I agree with the socialist rag, Pence would be even more ghastly.
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
We'll send him to NZ to say, "Boo!"
Pence would be far more measured and less erratic or extreme than Trump. He would also be able to develop compromises with the Democrats, and policy would be far more stable and moderate than it ever will be with Trump in office.
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
I am also very much a political centrist. Not so much what Yobbo calls a wish you washy moderate but an honest to goodness pro-business, free trading fiscal and economic conservative who is moderate to liberal on social issues, and a flat out wild eyed liberal on energy, the environment, immigration, and definately a progressive on foreign policy. And as much as I dislike his right wing politics, this country would be better off surviving the next four years with Pence in the White House rather than Donald Trump. At least pence is reasonably sane. And understands how government works. And has the ability to both work with both houses of congress, and provide a reasonably presence internationally. The US can survive four years of Mike Pence. I am not so certain it can survive Donald Trump.
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Re: If Trump goes, you will most likely get Pence...
And I agree, 4 months has already seemed like 4yrs.
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And I agree, 4 months has already seemed like 4yrs.
It's certainly been interesting but I believe that Yob and Rigby may be right that Pence would be a tad worse than Trump. It's kind of difficult to know for sure since Trump is such a loose cannon.
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Rigby5
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quote: katie5445 wrote:
The 'Muslim ban' came after the election and I am 100% against Trump on that doozy. Trump would kiss anyone's ass to make a buck. Hillary did help the poor and she did want to make healthcare affordable, that she made some lectures and money to pharma that were out of order for many dems, which I've read quite a few, she kissed assed but sometimes you know ass kissing works, as you said you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar. All politicians that are in a position to run for high office play the game. Don't forget, I supported Sanders, my vote was the same as many republicans, a vote against Hillary, I voted party against Trump as the alternative made me sick to so did the choice of wasting a vote against Trump and writing in Sanders name, or my own......
Nonsense.
There was never a Muslim ban.
There was an immigration ban on poor people from particular countries.
Hillary never helped the poor, deliberately caused the death of hundreds of thousands, and deliberately make health care more expensive and difficult to obtain because she helped make it private, for profit.
Hillary is one of the great mass murderers of the decade.
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