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We'll send him to NZ to say, "Boo!"

Pence would be far more measured and less erratic or extreme than Trump. He would also be able to develop compromises with the Democrats, and policy would be far more stable and moderate than it ever will be with Trump in office.



More measured and less erratic is exactly what we do NOT want, when the agenda it the end of personal freedom or genocide.

We don't really want a compromise with Wall St. Democrats either. We want a handgrenade what will stop both sides from business as usual. Neither the Republicans nor the democrats are at all moderate, but all are extreme Nazis. Stability would mean going back to regime change in all the Mideast countries. Anything is better than that.
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The 'Muslim ban' came after the election and I am 100% against Trump on that doozy. Trump would kiss anyone's ass to make a buck. Hillary did help the poor and she did want to make healthcare affordable, that she made some lectures and money to pharma that were out of order for many dems, which I've read quite a few, she kissed assed but sometimes you know ass kissing works, as you said you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar. All politicians that are in a position to run for high office play the game. Don't forget, I supported Sanders, my vote was the same as many republicans, a vote against Hillary, I voted party against Trump as the alternative made me sick to so did the choice of wasting a vote against Trump and writing in Sanders name, or my own......



Nonsense.
There was never a Muslim ban.
There was an immigration ban on poor people from particular countries.

Hillary never helped the poor, deliberately caused the death of hundreds of thousands, and deliberately make health care more expensive and difficult to obtain because she helped make it private, for profit.

Hillary is one of the great mass murderers of the decade.



I love the way you put it, "poor people from particular countries," umm Muslims.
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The 'Muslim ban' came after the election and I am 100% against Trump on that doozy. Trump would kiss anyone's ass to make a buck. Hillary did help the poor and she did want to make healthcare affordable, that she made some lectures and money to pharma that were out of order for many dems, which I've read quite a few, she kissed assed but sometimes you know ass kissing works, as you said you get more flies with honey than you do vinegar. All politicians that are in a position to run for high office play the game. Don't forget, I supported Sanders, my vote was the same as many republicans, a vote against Hillary, I voted party against Trump as the alternative made me sick to so did the choice of wasting a vote against Trump and writing in Sanders name, or my own......



Nonsense.
There was never a Muslim ban.
There was an immigration ban on poor people from particular countries.

Hillary never helped the poor, deliberately caused the death of hundreds of thousands, and deliberately make health care more expensive and difficult to obtain because she helped make it private, for profit.

Hillary is one of the great mass murderers of the decade.



I love the way you put it, "poor people from particular countries," umm Muslims.



No, Saudi Arabia was not on the list, and they are Muslim, right?
The only countries on the list were, " Iraq, Syria, Iran, Libya, Somalia, Sudan and Yemen".
Those are all countries we are in conflict with.
Pakistan and Afghanistan were not on the list.
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I agree with Katie and Hawk. I don't care for Pence at all but he's no Trump. He's a professional and know which side his bread is buttered on. Trump doesn't know anything and is dangerous. Pence is a party man and wouldn't do anything that would cause the Republicans to lose their majority. That would keep him under control.

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I agree with Katie and Hawk. I don't care for Pence at all but he's no Trump. He's a professional and know which side his bread is buttered on. Trump doesn't know anything and is dangerous. Pence is a party man and wouldn't do anything that would cause the Republicans to lose their majority. That would keep him under control.



The LAST thing we need is another "professional" who is going to go along with the Military Industrial Complex, and invade more countries.

The LAST thing we need is another loyal party member, who will help cover up more government lies.

There is not a single issue where Pence is even remotely better than Trump. Health care, abortion, wars, immigration, surveillance, unions, privacy, the economy, etc.
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I positively dislike everything Pence believes in but that doesn't mean he would try and force those beliefs on the nation. He would want to be "responsible" where Trump could not care less about what people think of him as far as being responsible.

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Being "President Pence" would not be a walk in the woods.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/21/president-mike-pence-would-be-in-for-a-world-of-pain-215165

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I positively dislike everything Pence believes in but that doesn't mean he would try and force those beliefs on the nation. He would want to be "responsible" where Trump could not care less about what people think of him as far as being responsible.



The whole point of why Trump was elected is that both parties, the whole system, is hopelessly corrupt, lying, covering up, murdering people, forcing regime change, etc.

The whole part of Trump that is good is that he is not concerned with covering up with a fake image. It may not be intentional, and is just his spontaneity, but so far he is the most open and honest politician we ever had.

And of course Pence would try to force his beliefs on the whole nation, just as he did in Indiana.

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Pence positioned himself as a principled ideologue and supporter of the Tea Party movement, noting he was "a Christian, a conservative, and a Republican, in that order."

Upon becoming Governor of Indiana in January 2013, Pence initiated the largest tax cut in Indiana's history,... and continued to increase the state's budget surplus. Pence signed bills intended to restrict abortions, including one that prohibited abortions if the reason for the procedure was the fetus's race, gender, or disability.[2] Pence stirred several high-profile controversies, including with his signature of the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, for which he encountered fierce resistance from moderate members of his party, the business community, and LGBT advocates.
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For "spontaneity" read capriciousness.
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For "spontaneity" read capriciousness.



Sure, but that is still a lot better than someone pushing a constant line like regime change.
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