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The flag of my own peculiar brand of nationalism. And the flag under which I was born and lived until the United Nations and Italy took it away from me in 1954.


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K_BEtfL9GFI



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Hillary a racist is quite a stretch. Not everyone can validate Muslim terrorism as you can.



Sorry, but it strikes me as insane to claim that Muslim terrorism exists at all.

We invade, subjugate, enslave, assassinate, etc., for centuries, and suddenly when they try to retaliate at all, it is supposed to be all their fault?

There were aggressive invaders hundreds of years ago who spread Islam, but they were actually Turks, Moors, Mamalukes, Moguls, Mongols, etc., who were not Arabs and not really Muslim.

The US is guilty of horrendous war crimes in the Mideast, and we are still even now murdering even more millions of innocent people.
The 9/11 attack was not only deserved, but a hundred times that would not even be close to making the score even.
You would have to kill about 10 million or so in the US to get close to that.
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This country is more divided than it has been since the Civil a War. Even more bitterly divided than we were during the civil rights era or the Vietnam War. We desperately need some one to unite this country. And unfortunately Donald Trunp ain't the guy. But then I never remotely thought he would be. I just regret that my health keeps me from leaving the country. But I am beginning to believe a few extra years of this insanity isn't really living. And I am about to say to hell with the Mayo Clinic's neurology group, and just pack up and go home to die. A couple of years fishing on the Adriatic is worth more to me than 5 to 10 years of this. Unfortunately the women in my life on both sides of the Atlantic won't stand for that. And so here I sit, relegated to watching a once great country literally tear itself apart.



GoHawk,

I replied in that other thread before I read this post. But I still believe that this isn't anything dramatically different from what we've experienced in the past including the Vietnam War era which you mentioned. In fact there was probably more hatred and anger being shown by the alt-right during Obama's presidency. They really didn't like him being president but we got through that period.

This country is pretty resilient. It's been through a lot of ups and downs in its relatively short history and still managed to be a place worth living in. That's why people still want to come here despite all the violent crime and other problems.
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I'm not sure about that Philer. Real evil is present in America and I don't think it's going away.

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Incidentally, I understand that the person who played an important part to identify the killer was a New Zealander.

I have to say about racism in the US that non-whites must not be seen to assume that they are as good as white people. Certainly not show exasperation with stupidity. Or be sarcastic about it.

According to my colleagues in NC I was too full on. If I had been white I'd have got away with stuff that I was forever being pulled up for doing.
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The image of the impact sure looked awful.
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If driving a car into people is terrorism in France, how is it any different in Virginia?



The driver in France was a Muslim. The guy in the US was a white supremacist. Guess which group supported Trump's bid for the white house.

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Who radicalized 20-year-old James Fields?



According to former teachers he was like this as early as grade 9 so all that the election did was tell him his position was acceptable.
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It seems they've identified the driver.

http://cnews.canoe.com/CNEWS/World/2017/08/12/22744936.html

Definitely qualifies as terrorism. But the mother of the driver made an "interesting" statement

"... she knew her son was attending a rally in Virginia but didn’t know it was a white supremacist rally.

“I thought it had something to do with Trump. Trump’s not a white supremacist,” Bloom said.

“He had an African-American friend so ...,” "


Sounds like she's never paid any attention to what Trump has been spewing since before he started campaigning.



Geeze... and they vote...
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It certainly is worse than what I experienced as bad as it was in the SF Bay Area in the 60's.
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Well, I'm of two minds on how bad it really is.

On one hand, who shows up to a political march armed to the teeth, like this ?

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But on the other hand, what snowflakes and easily ridiculed are they for fearing them evil Jews, like Woody Allan, Seinfeld, Bette Midler and Barbara Streisand so much that they whine that all of America must be their "safe place" where they are no longer confronted with having to fear the evil Jewish Conspiracy that threatens their hertitage and way of life, so very much ?

‘Jews will not replace us’: Why white supremacists go after Jews"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/08/14/jews-will-not-replace-us-why-white-supremacists-go-after-jews/?utm_term=.ebc374f6fced
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