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A status remembered
In 1971 I had the honor to see Germany, a lovely nation of good people. As I still do I toured the countryside with family on the back roads staying in Zimmerfrie or rooms for rent in locals actual homes. To this day three things stay with me, the love of country of those people even as many were survivors of the epic proportion onslaught of war, the sensations of walking thru Dachau with that constant effect of the level of malice laying as a pall and the photos in those homes we stayed, of the men and women that had died during the war. The pictures that survived with those men and women uniformed in the service of their nation a few with SS markings. The people of the home set them in places of prominence NOT for the Uniform or the intonation of Nazism but to the only memory they retained of those departed souls.
Those that take that out of context are being rash foolish and profoundly hateful.
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How do you think a statue of Hitler would go over with the German people if it were placed in a public park or in front of a statehouse?
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I believe showing Nazi artifacts is illegal in Germany. I have never been there but I have been to Austria. Beautiful country.
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Selling Nazi memorbilia is banned in several Euro countries, besides Germany, I know France, Belgium and Poland does. I've never seen any Nazi stuff in Europe other than in the death camp museums. Although throughout The Netherlands,Belgium, France, they not only attend the allies graves with care, they do the Nazi soldiers as well, which I found fitting. Ebay, Amazon also have banned any sales.
If you go through Bavaria into Austria, it looks the same! Vienna has to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world, Berlin, not so much at all, although others disagree with me.
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quote: katie5445 wrote:
Selling Nazi memorbilia is banned in several Euro countries, besides Germany, I know France, Belgium and Poland does. I've never seen any Nazi stuff in Europe other than in the death camp museums. Although throughout The Netherlands,Belgium, France, they not only attend the allies graves with care, they do the Nazi soldiers as well, which I found fitting. Ebay, Amazon also have banned any sales.
If you go through Bavaria into Austria, it looks the same! Vienna has to be one of the most beautiful cities in the world, Berlin, not so much at all, although others disagree with me.
Remember that those death camp museums are not the actual death camps.
No actual death camps were any more than plowed over fields by the end of the war.
Anything you see is a subjective reconstruction.
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There are a few WWII German memorials.
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I was not speaking of sales or public displays, just the prominent household displays of memories of a bygone day. It just HAPPENED to encompass uniforms of that very time. Grave markers in Germany as well Russia have photographs cast to them, these are also on display with those men that died during the war.
http://www.timesofisrael.com/swastikas-on-austrian-tombstones-defy-official-ban/
So too this needs to go??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Cambe_German_war_cemetery
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quote: Bellelettres wrote:
How do you think a statue of Hitler would go over with the German people if it were placed in a public park or in front of a statehouse?
How about a statue of Erwin Rommel, who was killed by Hitler for an attempted coupe?
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Or the monument at Le CAmbre to the German war dead, does it need to come down? Or any of any monuments to the Japanese of WWII?
This is not a complete issue unless ALL "Offensive" monuments/markers are removed based on philosophy provided, then step into the African nations where the slaving began, what of the slave trade forts, sales barns, the storage facilities. There is a large rock out cropping at Danville MO, in between the lanes of I-70 it is well known as Slave Rock where in the day slaves were brought for sale and trade, does it need be destroyed to preclude anyone finding that out as if they did not already know?
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Then another step, remove the Battery remnants in Charleston, rename the park as it was instrumental in shelling Sumter, there are issues with any and everything if you ask the right people at the right or wrong time.
Odd though that it is Black voices in the City of St. Louis news that were most vocal in NOT removing the Confederate Dead monument in Forest Park. Same holds true in other locations where it is the damned idiot "Do-Gooders" of WHITE origin taken aghast at the allowance of such figures, one of those being Lyda Krewson Mayor et al of St, Louis. These people intent on removing anything of history found offensive have altered text books and historic records used for teaching the children as they find it offensive, NOT the parents, NOT the school districts just "Do-Gooder" idiots bent on do something notably "Good" for all mankind.
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