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Re: So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes ...
IF it were a science and not a electronics game played on computers, a "Guessing Game", would not be a problem. Currently the Hurricane Irma has defied all Computer based logic, in the large part by the data streams input by Human Hands. The Computer is only as smart as the input materials will let it.
Now as to that storm, it followed Cuba coastline then has since turned N Nw as it will follow the FL coast. The SCIENCE claims it will make landfall on Continental FL not just the Keys and continue up thru the state. Lets just see how 'Smart' the science really is.
Seems my 'Guess' based on travel and direction of movement has since shown out as well or better than the Masters of Climate Depiction.
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And so does come ashore, on the West not East coast as Cat 4, fairly low population zone drops quickly into Cat 3 then by the time has reached Tampa has dropped to Cat 2 and lost most of the moisture influx. Now a tropical depression buffeting Georgia.
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Re: So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes ...
So what other predictions that fit this theory and not explained by anything else, are occurring, right now ?
Earth is losing its ice: Glaciers around the world are rapidly ...
www.independent.co.uk/.../earth-ice-melting-glaciers-disappearing-glacier-los-glaciar...
May 11, 2017 - The evidence is overwhelming: Earth is losing its ice.” Glaciers all over the world are disappearing in what should be the subject of ... “Multiple studies indicate that this irreversible West Antarctic collapse is under way.”.
Wildfires Rage Across the American West - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2017/09/wildfires-rage-across-the.../538977/
Wildfires Rage Across the American West. Alan Taylor; Sep 6, 2017; 33 Photos; In Focus. Dozens of forest and brush fires are currently burning across eight ...
Has Climate Change Intensified 2017's Western Wildfires? - The Atlantic
https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/09/...2017-so...wildfires.../539130/
4 days ago - This excessive heat can have an outsize effect on the size of forest fires. For more than three decades, wildfire researchers have known that fire ...
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9/12/2017, 6:11 am
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Re: So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes ...
This is from a different thread, here, but needs to said here, too:
Yeah, but given my professional interest, I follow the tropical weather forecasts regularly every year. There are more of them as predicted by a certain theory, BUT as they have stayed out to sea, gone up the mid Atlantic, the dumb deniers and fake news authoritarians can claim that they don't know about them, so they don't know what is really going on, actually.
Now, something that needs saying is that ultimately until the 1960's, the data is not reliable in that it was gathered by ships at sea. A big mid-ocean hurricane, or one that lasted as long Irma, could easily be counted twice ... as two different storms, if, for example, if it was reported once, not far west of the Cape Verdes, then not again until it was bearing down on Windward Islands.
So admittedly it got better between WWII and the 1960's, but still remember the storm that USS Independence was in was not forecast
So read this:
Seasons with the most named storms, 1851 - Present
Rank Year Number of Storms
1. 2005 28
2. 1933 20
3. 2012 19
3. 2011 19
3. 2010 19
3. 1995 19
3. 1887 19
8. 1969 18
9. 2008 16
9. 2003 16
9. 1936 16
12. 2007 15
13. 2004 15
14. 2001 15
15. 2000 15
... and how many are in the past ... 20 or 25 years ?
and lately note this:
3. 2012 19
3. 2011 19
3. 2010 19
But the years in between did not let up much
But where they went is why the silly fools can pretend the corporate liars are correct in saying what you do not see is not happening.
There is what their denial really is.
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9/12/2017, 3:14 pm
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Re: So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes ...
And I will not EVER "Deny" anything as to the climate Changing, it changes every year and every eon as well on every planet.
As you Climate Shriekers call out "Is Worse than Bad or badder than the Worst ".
Unbelievable as all foundation is based on "Recorded Historic Data that dates from such "Ancient" times as the 17or 1800's That is basically 'Modern Time' and hardly a value as to a 'Trend' of "The Earth's Worst Storms" Add the caveat of recorded history, or of data recorded or of any other caveat to make it justify in your own mind. It Snowed Worse than I had Ever Seen in 2014/15 winter, does not mean has snowed any less in the past, or that deep in the past was not ever so much worse. Get a reality check.
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"Recorded Historic Data that dates from such "Ancient" times as the 17or 1800's That is basically 'Modern Time' and hardly a value as to a 'Trend' of "The Earth's Worst Storms"
That's just fake news.
How much do you understand undisturbed piston cores at sea or in lakes, where the sediment layers weld evidence of the contributing environment and/or ice cores wherein the entrapped gases can measure the CO2 content over millions eons ?
Then if you claim that get that stuff, granted that CO2 has been higher, but how long did it take ? * please show us any instance of such rapid increase in atmosphere CO2, and/or what besides pumping carbon outta the ground and into the air, could case it, please.
*The Fantastically Strange Origin of Most Coal on Earth
So imagine, then, these stands of towering, fernlike plants mostly growing in swamps. The air is warm and moist, and the land (Europe, the Americas, and Africa were at the time one continuous mass) is covered by millions—no, billions—of trees that are sucking carbon from the air, growing, aging, dying, falling, and releasing oxygen. This is a world littered with dead trees piling on top of each other.
But when those trees died, the bacteria, fungi, and other microbes that today would have chewed the dead wood into smaller and smaller bits were missing, or as Ward and Kirschvink put it, they “were not yet present.”
Where Are They?
Bacteria existed, of course, but microbes that could ingest lignin and cellulose—the key wood-eaters—had yet to evolve. It’s a curious mismatch. Food to eat but no eaters to eat it. And so enormous loads of wood stayed whole. “Trees would fall and not decompose back,” write Ward and Kirschvink.
Instead, trunks and branches would fall on top of each other, and the weight of all that heavy wood would eventually compress those trees into peat and then, over time, into coal. Had those bacteria been around devouring wood, they’d have broken carbon bonds, releasing carbon and oxygen into the air, but instead the carbon stayed in the wood.
We’re talking about a spectacular amount of carbon. Biochemist Nick Lane guesses that the rate of coal formation back then was 600 times the normal rate. Ward and Kirschvink say that 90 percent—yup, 90 percent!—of the coal we burn today (and the coal dust we see flying about Beijing and New Delhi) comes from that single geological period, the Carboniferous period.
That’s why it’s called “carboniferous”—because it produced so much carbon. “The Carboniferous period was the time of forest burial on a spectacular scale,” the writers say.
http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/07/the-fantastically-strange-origin-of-most-coal-on-earth/
See: The Carboniferous Period is famous for its vast swamp forests, such as the one depicted here. Such swamps produced the coal from which the term Carboniferous, or "carbon-bearing," is derived. The Carboniferous Period lasted from about 359.2 to 299 million years ago* during the late Paleozoic Era.
The Carboniferous Period
www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/carboniferous/carboniferous.php
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“I do not believe in the general promiscuous toting of guns. I think it should be sharply restricted and only under licenses.” - NRA president Karl T. Frederick, 1938
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Could not be the Solar helping hand we have been enjoying? That "Silent Sun" the Climatologists keep rambling on about?
http://www.msn.com/en-us/video/wonder/noticed-a-different-in-the-sun-dont-freak-out/vi-AArPEXZ
There are a great deal of outside Earth influences happening Every Day, this new energy burst process just Happened to start Last Week.
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Re: So if you see what a certain theory predicted happening, right before your own eyes ...
How did that increase the CO2 levels and ocean acidification?
Your theory must explain the observed data.
Get back to us with that.
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So you have become a science denier? You "DENY" The Sun can influence weather, you are such a Denier!
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