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What next? Perhaps arresting a woman for telling her daughter to defend herself from bullies.

And just exactly how was this woman contributing to the delinquency of a minor? I guess by getting her daughter to do something illegal. The real serious crime of trying to get evidence verifying her account of being bullied.

That was actually good training for a young girl in this society where females tend to be disbelieved when they report crimes taking place against them. They need to learn to record audio and visual evidence so that the authorities can't claim they are lying.

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i am so glad the charges were dismissed.

i would lose my job if i had a felony on my record. It makes you wonder about the principle at this elementary school.
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I'm glad the charges were dismissed also but that raises the question, why were they filed in the first place? Clearly this woman did place a recording device in her daughter's backpack. Is that illegal or not? If it is illegal why were the charges dismissed? And if it was illegal but so insignificant that nothing should have been done about it why did it ever reach the level of the police or the city attorney's office?

The following statement is apparently more baloney than anything else. What responsibility did they really have to report something so trivial to the authorities?

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With regard to Ms. Sims’ case, the district had a responsibility to fully investigate the alleged incident and as such a legal review was requested from the district’s counsel (Norfolk City Attorney’s Office). After review of the incident, counsel forwarded the matter to the Norfolk Police Department for investigation. That investigation then resulted in criminal charges against Sarah Sims. As the location of the offense was one of our schools, NPS had a duty to fully cooperate with authorities. This included not commenting on a pending legal matter, as is customary in all school districts.



I also wonder if she has gotten her recording device returned to her along with what it recorded.
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The statement the school put out, is very telling. Now that the charges have been dropped.
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I'm glad the charges were dismissed also but that raises the question, why were they filed in the first place? Clearly this woman did place a recording device in her daughter's backpack. Is that illegal or not? If it is illegal why were the charges dismissed? And if it was illegal but so insignificant that nothing should have been done about it why did it ever reach the level of the police or the city attorney's office



was the device illegal? yes

why were the charges dismissed? because there was little to be gained by proceeding with the prosecution

if it was insignificant why did it reach the level of the police /city attorney?

because they are the ones who can properly decide if its worth proceeding.


Let me illustrate.

You are driving at 35mph in a 30 zone.

the police pull you over, you flutter your eye lids, talk all nice and they tell you not to do it again and bid you a safe journey.

If they werent going to give you a ticket why did they pull you over?

two reasons

firstly it gives them a chance to talk to you and gauge what you are up to - are you speeding because you are trying to distance yourself from a more serious crime or did you just let your attention wander?

secondly the act of stopping you lets you know that you have done wrong and serves as a warning not to do it again because if you were stopped once you can be stopped again.

could they ticket you? absolutely would anything be gained by ticketing you for a minor speeding offence? not very much

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Philer I am shocked that you are not over this injustice like a rash!

the fact that this woman wasnt charged is indicative of the on going oppression of women by the court system!

How dare they treat her so unfairly

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I'm glad the charges were dismissed also but that raises the question, why were they filed in the first place? Clearly this woman did place a recording device in her daughter's backpack. Is that illegal or not? If it is illegal why were the charges dismissed? And if it was illegal but so insignificant that nothing should have been done about it why did it ever reach the level of the police or the city attorney's office



was the device illegal? yes

why were the charges dismissed? because there was little to be gained by proceeding with the prosecution

if it was insignificant why did it reach the level of the police /city attorney?

because they are the ones who can properly decide if its worth proceeding.


Let me illustrate.

You are driving at 35mph in a 30 zone.

the police pull you over, you flutter your eye lids, talk all nice and they tell you not to do it again and bid you a safe journey.

If they werent going to give you a ticket why did they pull you over?

two reasons

firstly it gives them a chance to talk to you and gauge what you are up to - are you speeding because you are trying to distance yourself from a more serious crime or did you just let your attention wander?

secondly the act of stopping you lets you know that you have done wrong and serves as a warning not to do it again because if you were stopped once you can be stopped again.

could they ticket you? absolutely would anything be gained by ticketing you for a minor speeding offence? not very much



Using a recording device to try to catch bullying doesn't jeopardize anyone's safety on the highway.

Also, it can't work both ways as you suggest it can. The school authorities can't be unqualified to judge whether using the recording device to catch bullying was a significant crime while simultaneously serving as cops qualified to judge whether to give someone a ticket or not.

I suspect school authorities make the decision quite often whether or not to report "crimes" to the police and did so in this case to try to get a woman in trouble who was only trying to protect her daughter. I see no other reason for reporting to the authorities such an insignificant illegal act as this one was. If they didn't approve of it they could have talked to the woman themselves and explained why they couldn't allow her to do it.
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Philer I am shocked that you are not over this injustice like a rash!

the fact that this woman wasnt charged is indicative of the on going oppression of women by the court system!

How dare they treat her so unfairly



If it wasn't for the ridiculous nature of any criminal charges and their fear of public disapproval they might have proceeded against her hoping to get her locked up for awhile. I don't know what the school authorities were hoping for if not some sort of punishment being imposed on her.

What was wrong with a woman trying to get evidence of her daughter being bullied? If that's what it takes to result in them being believed by authorities it should happen more often and it certainly shouldn't be illegal to gather such evidence. Not even in a school.
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I would have handled it differently. A video in a backpack where a whole class of 9 y.o. are being filmed isn't appropriate. As a parent you would not know what the purpose was.
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I would have handled it differently. A video in a backpack where a whole class of 9 y.o. are being filmed isn't appropriate. As a parent you would not know what the purpose was.



And that could have been explained to the mother without calling in the police.

Schools should take claims of bullying against children seriously and help root out such behaviour. Too long there has been tolerance for it and I'm not surprised that some mother did something like this to try to get evidence that her child was being bullied. It was a perfectly understandable thing to do. Not something that called for summoning the police.
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