The unreadable tax bill https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/t2532 Runboard| The unreadable tax bill en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:13:55 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 14:13:55 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: The unreadable tax billhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32351,from=rss#post32351https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32351,from=rss#post32351Have Democrats put through an illegible bill, Gopqed?nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bellelettres)Sat, 02 Dec 2017 22:41:54 +0000 Re: The unreadable tax billhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32350,from=rss#post32350https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32350,from=rss#post32350but how do they know if they oppose it or support it? since neither party can read it. that seems to be the problem with both parties. The difference is ACA was discussed for a year before they voted, they had open meetings got imput from the community. While Tax cut was discussed behind closed doors. No public meetings and literally pass this bill while America was asleep. I don't understand Trump. He talked like the USA is now the champion for global tax equity. If you think about this, it would only benefit small counties not big countries. Flat Foot Trump said that every country with a lower effective base tax interfacing with the USA will be penalized under this new tax bill . Does this mean every country with a higher effective tax receives compensation from the USA? cause now we have the lowest tax base. How about US companies involved in creative transfer pricing? those invoicing via the Cayman Islands, Singapore, Channel Islands etc. ? anyway, after all that talk, this tax bill just made things worse for the airline industry. the taxbill was going to make foreign airline pay taxes when they used the U.S. market. apparently at the last minute they removed the tax. Which means if you fly on other airlines in the U.S. the taxes don't go to the U.S. they collect the tax but route it back to their country even thought they are doing business in the USA. Same things with ordering planes, if someone orders a plane from another country he was going to tax them to keep jobs at home. But, republicans took that out of the tax bill at the last minute as well. So, i don't see how any of this is going to help his agenda for creating job at home or bringing in tax revenue that are being ignored. This is just my industry, i have no idea what they were promising other industries and if they backed out of those deals as well. nondisclosed_email@example.com (snowpixie)Sat, 02 Dec 2017 22:36:30 +0000 Re: The unreadable tax billhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32342,from=rss#post32342https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32342,from=rss#post32342And republicans only complain about a bill when they oppose it, kinda typically works that way.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Sat, 02 Dec 2017 19:47:59 +0000 Re: The unreadable tax billhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32340,from=rss#post32340https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32340,from=rss#post32340I'm all in favor of making sure amendments are properly printed so they can be read, but I'm amused that Democrats only complain about it when it's a bill they oppose.nondisclosed_email@example.com (gopqed)Sat, 02 Dec 2017 18:52:22 +0000 The unreadable tax billhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32339,from=rss#post32339https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32339,from=rss#post32339After complaining on the floor, Durbin submitted that page to the Congressional Record. But he soon returned after being told he wasn't allowed to submit that page, because it couldn't be read. Democrats rail against illegible, handwritten amendments to Republicans' tax bill by Pete Kasperowicz | Dec 1, 2017, 7:35 PM Senate Democrats on Friday complained about a bevy of handwritten changes to the Republican tax bill, and said many of them couldn't be read even though senators were expected to be asked to vote on the bill in a matter of hours. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., found that one of the pages was so hard to read, he couldn't even submit it as an exhibit in the Congressional Record. Durbin took to the Senate floor Friday night to complain about the various handwritten amendments that Republicans were quickly adding to the bill. In exasperation, he held up a new proposed page 257 of the bill, which included a lengthy addition on the right-hand margin. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., also complained about the fast Senate process with a tweet showing the same page. "f you are so intent on forcing middle class families to foot the bill so your donors can have a tax break, at least have the decency to find a printer," she said. After complaining on the floor, Durbin submitted that page to the Congressional Record. But he soon returned after being told he wasn't allowed to submit that page, because it couldn't be read. "I've now been instructed that the personnel in the Senate cannot read this page the way it is currently written," Durbin said on the floor. "Could I enter it as a graphic, or artwork, or something like that?" Both parties have quickly scrawled on the pages of bills they are trying to past quickly. Democrats famously had hand-written notes in the Obamacare bill they were trying to pass years ago. But Democrats on Friday were using it as an example of the lack of due process on the GOP tax bill. Durbin didn't get any clear answers to his questions about why he couldn't submit the page, but was told that Republicans would be allowed to submit the bill that includes handwritten sections. The difference, he was told, was that the page he wanted to submit wouldn't be relayed in a graphic form that would allow people to see the handwriting on the side. "I was hoping that this could be entered into the record, and I asked for unanimous consent to enter it, believing that the handwritten portion would show up in the record," Durbin said. "I've since been advised that there'll have to be translators and interpreters who will later decide exactly what this says before it's part of the Congressional Record." "I think I've made my point about where we stand in preparation for tax reform for America," he said. https://tinyurl.com/y7yacrc2 nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bellelettres)Sat, 02 Dec 2017 18:33:26 +0000