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is the same lawyer who's tweeting as the @realDonaldTrump?
Yes, this guy is suppose to tops, I'd want a new lawyer!
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12/4/2017, 8:56 pm
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Bellelettres
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Re: Is Mueller after Trump?
To say Trump can't break the law would put him above Congress, which makes the law. But the Constitution makes the Executive and the Congress co-equal.
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12/5/2017, 10:54 am
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Nixon said, "If the President does it, it's not illegal." Trump's lawyer didn't say that.
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12/5/2017, 11:11 am
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is this the same lawyer who's tweeting as the @realDonaldTrump?
It's pretty clear that the tweet in question was not made by a lawyer. It read
“I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!”
I stand to be corrected but it's unlikely that a lawyer would use the verb "pled" instead of "pleaded".
That aside, if Dowd did in fact write the tweet, that may be grounds for disbarment.
On Twitter, critics both doubted that Dowd actually wrote the tweet, and damned him for doing so if he did.
”A lawyer who writes a tweet like that incriminating a client should be disbarred. He can tell Mueller he wrote it,” tweeted Richard Painter, a professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, and former chief White House ethics lawyer for President George W. Bush.
“I’m just trying to imagine a circumstance where I, as a lawyer, would take the fall for a client’s crazy tweet,” tweeted Michael Li, senior counsel for the Brennan Center’s Democracy Program at New York University School of Law.
“I dare you to tell Mueller you logged into POTUS’s Twitter account and wrote “pled” and the rest of that, John Dowd. I dare you,” tweeted Walter Shaub, the former director of the U.S. Office of Government Ethics, who has been a vocal critic of Trump since leaving the federal government in July.
Shaub’s quotation marks around the word “pled” reflect a related dispute among tweeters over whether any lawyer would ever had used the word “pled,” rather than “pleaded.”
Shaub tweeted later:
“Dowd’s explanation to CNN makes no sense. He claims he wrote the tweet claiming Flynn was fired partly for lying to the FBI, but he also rejects the idea that POTUS knew Flynn had lied. Why would you write the tweet then, Dowd? Or did you?”
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I heard the thing about a lawyer never saying "pled" on MSNBC yesterday. But on Lawrence O'Donnell later, a lawyer used "pled" instead of "pleaded," and he was not quoting the Trump tweet. The difference in the two words had not been discussed when he used "pled." He used it naturally.
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Nixon said, "If the President does it, it's not illegal." Trump's lawyer didn't say that.
So? Obstruction of justice is illegal and by a president or Nixon and Clinton wouldn't have been brought up on those charges. It's not like a precedent being set, not a first and hopefully not a last!
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This is taking me back in time like you wouldn't believe! I was in high school when Watergate blew up! The daily paper had a headline about it for at least 2 months straight! In the meantime the DOW had finally broken 1000 points if you can believe it! Now instead of Hunt, Gordon Liddy, Ehrlichman, Ziegler, and all the rest, we have a daily diet of Manafort, his partner Gates, the plea of Flynn, the daily LIE of Huckabee-Sanders, and now charges will be brought against this other lying b!tch, KT McFarland!   
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Who is "this other lying !@#$?"
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