It's Over https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/t2561 Runboard| It's Over en-us Fri, 29 Mar 2024 01:22:32 +0000 Fri, 29 Mar 2024 01:22:32 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32794,from=rss#post32794https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32794,from=rss#post32794I don't know what Alternet is calling the mainstream media, but I've seen mention time after time on MSNBC that Jones got a far larger percentage of the white vote in Alabama than Hillary did.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bellelettres)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:18:29 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32792,from=rss#post32792https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32792,from=rss#post32792Another Positive Factor From the Alabama Election That Republicans Don't Want to Talk About. https://www.alternet.org/election-03918/another-hopeful-sign-alabama-many-whites-voted-democrat-first-time-years?akid=16505.2666240.obTm-c&rd=1&src=newsletter1086559&t=4 There’s one feature of the voting in this week’s Alabama special election that elected Democrat Doug Jones to the U.S. Senate that Republicans aren’t talking about—tens of thousands of white voters who were reliable Republicans voted for the Democrat. This observation is missing from the mainstream media narrative that correctly, but incompletely, points to historically through-the-roof black voter turnout as a core pillar of Jones’ victory, as Matt Bruenig, who blogs on politics and economics, noted. “The overwhelming mainstream narrative of Doug Jones’s victory over Roy Moore in Alabama has been focused on black turnout,” Bruenig wrote, citing the New York Times, which reported, “According to CNN exit polling, 30 percent of the electorate was African-American, with 96 percent of them voting for Mr. Jones. (Mr. Jones’ backers had felt he needed to get north of 25 percent to have a shot to win.) A remarkable 98 percent of black women voters supported Mr. Jones. The share of black voters on Tuesday was higher than the share in 2008 and 2012, when Barack Obama was on the ballot.”nondisclosed_email@example.com (Yobbo)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 19:12:19 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32768,from=rss#post32768https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32768,from=rss#post32768quote:cooter50 wrote: You take too much for granted Belle, there is NO 'Suppression' of voting by requiring Photo ID, never was or is and this is justification of that statement. When that requirement disproportionately impacts minorities it is. This in North Carolina: quote:Last week, a federal appeals court struck down North Carolina’s omnibus voter suppression law — a law so jam-packed with voting restrictions targeted at poor, minority communities that its moniker was the “monster law.” snip ... ... today’s cleverly masked voting laws — passed under false pretenses of stopping nonexistent in-person voter fraud — are no different from the tactics used during the Jim Crow era to maintain white political power. snip ... [Shift's comment - to directly address Cooter's comment re photo ID] The documents acceptable for proving voters’ identity in North Carolina were the ones disproportionately held by whites, such as driver’s licenses, U.S. passports, and veteran and military IDs, and the ones that were left out were the ones often held by poor minority voters, such as student IDs, government employee IDs and public assistance IDs. The Texas voter ID law was designed the same way: There, officials accepted concealed-weapon licenses but not student or state employee IDs. The Texas legislature was repeatedly advised of the likely effect on minority voters but rebuffed nearly all amendments that would have eased its harsh impact. etc ... https://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2016/08/03/courts-are-finally-pointing-out-the-racism-behind-voter-id-laws/?utm_term=.f9ebdd1e8f31nondisclosed_email@example.com (shiftless2)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:51:42 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32761,from=rss#post32761https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32761,from=rss#post32761WHAT is justification for your statement that there is NO suppression of the vote, Cooter? Are you saying that YOUR CLAIM that there is no suppression is justification for the statement that there is no justification? (That's called "circular reasoning.") What you say I'm "taking too much for granted" is something courts have been deciding since voter ID requirements first became the law in some of the states.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bellelettres)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:14:18 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32752,from=rss#post32752https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32752,from=rss#post32752You take too much for granted Belle, there is NO 'Suppression' of voting by requiring Photo ID, never was or is and this is justification of that statement.nondisclosed_email@example.com (cooter50)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:17:23 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32749,from=rss#post32749https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32749,from=rss#post32749It appears that god did send Moore a sign - he parted the red sea - what more could anyone ask for? nondisclosed_email@example.com (shiftless2)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 15:55:51 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32738,from=rss#post32738https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32738,from=rss#post32738The Jones victory does not show that voter ID laws did not suppress the vote. It only shows that Jones won despite voter-suppression laws: As recently as last year, some 15 percent of otherwise eligible African Americans [in Alabama] lacked the right to vote, according to a study by The Sentencing Project. https://tinyurl.com/yawk7gtl Deuel Ross, a lawyer for the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, [said] “There are about 118,000 voters in Alabama who either have no form of photo ID or a form they couldn’t use to vote.” https://tinyurl.com/ya7oy9c8nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bellelettres)Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:26:55 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32719,from=rss#post32719https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32719,from=rss#post32719More from the Biased Obsessed Left. He lost by a small margin to a largely associated to minority population level. The SAME persons that were supposedly being overwhelmed by Voter ID laws per the Left who were yet again All Too Excitable over nothing.nondisclosed_email@example.com (cooter50)Fri, 15 Dec 2017 20:35:42 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32664,from=rss#post32664https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32664,from=rss#post32664nondisclosed_email@example.com (shiftless2)Thu, 14 Dec 2017 00:40:09 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32654,from=rss#post32654https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32654,from=rss#post32654It's not over according to Judge Roy and his "god" Moore, meanwhile, refused to concede and raised the possibility of a recount during a brief appearance at a somber campaign party in Montgomery. “It’s not over,” Moore said. He added, “We know that God is still in control.”nondisclosed_email@example.com (Geezess)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 16:32:38 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32649,from=rss#post32649https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32649,from=rss#post32649Love your comments, Yobbo and Snow.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Bellelettres)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 13:17:26 +0000 Re: It's Over + Thhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32647,from=rss#post32647https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32647,from=rss#post32647quote:gopqed wrote: Maybe Gohawk will decide to stay in the US now. Actually as i have explained previously, this move really gas little to,do with politics. As it has everything to do with family. And in that regard when our two daughters and their families both ended up in Europe - totally independent of each other — but both within 200 km of my family home - one in italy, andd the other in Austria - there was no way you could keepmy wife from followig them. But i cannot begin to eexplain ho w complicated the logistics of this move are.nondisclosed_email@example.com (GoHawk)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:59:32 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32645,from=rss#post32645https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32645,from=rss#post32645The good thing is that he doesn't have to concede for Jones to be certified as the winner and seated in the Senate.nondisclosed_email@example.com (gopqed)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:31:59 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32644,from=rss#post32644https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32644,from=rss#post32644Moore refusing to concede. i guess he doesn't know NO, means no.  nondisclosed_email@example.com (snowpixie)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 08:21:09 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32643,from=rss#post32643https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32643,from=rss#post32643Moore liked this evening when it was a lot younger. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Yobbo)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 07:54:56 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32642,from=rss#post32642https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32642,from=rss#post32642http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/12/12/alabama-senate-election-voters-split-on-roy-moore-allegations-as-precincts-remain-open.html quote:Democrat Doug Jones has pulled off a major upset in Alabama by defeating Republican Roy Moore in Tuesday’s special election, Fox News has projected, becoming the first Democrat to win election to the Senate from the deeply conservative state in 25 years. "We have come so far and the people of Alabama have spoken," a jubilant Jones said during his victory speech in Birmingham late Tuesday. The dramatic Democratic win in deep red Alabama cuts the GOP’s Senate majority from 52 to 51, further dimming Republican hopes of enacting major legislation backed by President Trump. But there may be a silver lining for Republicans: A victory by Moore, who is embroiled in a sex scandal, might have made it more difficult for the GOP to retain control of the Senate in next year’s midterm elections. With 98 percent of precincts reporting, Jones was ahead of Moore 49.5 to 48.8 percent. The margin is being closely watched. Under Alabama law, a mandatory recount takes place if a candidate wins by a half percent or less.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Yobbo)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:28:03 +0000 Re: It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32639,from=rss#post32639https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32639,from=rss#post32639Maybe Gohawk will decide to stay in the US now. nondisclosed_email@example.com (gopqed)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:15:15 +0000 It's Overhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32638,from=rss#post32638https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p32638,from=rss#post32638It was a great win but I still can't help but think over 48% of Alabama supported a child molester, a homophobic, anti-Semite, misogynist and racist.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Wed, 13 Dec 2017 04:09:34 +0000