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I am a registered DEM, have been since I was old enough to vote.

I listened to my Grandmother quip as to Democrats and FDR as if interchangeable, I hear those same quips, those same points of reference even today where the Democrat Party TODAY is as far as potentially possible from FDR's affiliation. An Affiliation HE was working to sever. FDR did as he had to help the US populace during the Great Depression HOWEVER, the benefits were NOT handouts.

WPA, CCC, CYC were all developed so those NOT working could do a days work and receive a reasonable remittance.

Welfare, paying for all those that "Do NOT Work" became a condition long AFTER FDR was dead and buried. Socialized programs were NOT in his workbook of methodologies and he absolutely despised NAZI(National SOCIALISM) and Communistic USSR policies(Mandated, Forced Socialism). All those attitude reflections are well documented as to FDR. In the basis of that IMHO Democrats DO NOT reflect any inference to FDR or his philosophies and should be ignored when they make such iterations.
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To run a country the way the GOP wants would be to deny empathy and make selfishness mandatory.
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And the false empathy of the Democrats is better how?
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In our era, we are not living with the security he envisioned.




This Republic had its beginning, and grew to its present strength, under the protection of certain inalienable political rights—among them the right of free speech, free press, free worship, trial by jury, freedom from unreasonable searches and seizures. They were our rights to life and liberty.

As our nation has grown in size and stature, however—as our industrial economy expanded—these political rights proved inadequate to assure us equality in the pursuit of happiness. We have come to a clear realization of the fact that true individual freedom cannot exist without economic security and independence.

"Necessitous men are not free men." People who are hungry and out of a job are the stuff of which dictatorships are made. In our day these economic truths have become accepted as self-evident. We have accepted, so to speak, a second Bill of Rights under which a new basis of security and prosperity can be established for all—regardless of station, race, or creed.

Among these are:

The right to a useful and remunerative job; The right to earn enough to provide adequate food and clothing and recreation;

The right of every farmer to raise and sell his products at a return which will give him and his family a decent living;

The right of every businessman, large and small, to trade in an atmosphere of freedom from unfair competition and domination by monopolies at home or abroad;

The right of every family to a decent home;

The right to adequate medical care and the opportunity to achieve and enjoy good health;

The right to adequate protection from the economic fears of old age, sickness, accident, and unemployment; The right to a good education.

All of these rights spell security. And after this war is won we must be prepared to move forward, in the implementation of these rights, to new goals of human happiness and well-being. America's own rightful place in the world depends in large part upon how fully these and similar rights have been carried into practice for all our citizens. For unless there is security here at home there cannot be lasting peace in the world.

- President Franklin Delano Roosevelt January 11, 1944
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I had to laugh while reading cooter's OP.
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Thanks, bird!
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And again the reference to FDR, the Democrat Party is as far away from FDR's thoughts and process considerations as to be Republican or anything else for that matter. False sense of security in doing such a reference.

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The links within the page establish the OP basis.
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"Establish" is the wrong word.
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Not really. Historic reference does.

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If the Democrats have moved away from FDR's philosophies, then the Republicans are light years away from them.

In fact, there are reasons to believe the Republicans are trying to dismantle what FDR accomplished.


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The "New Deal" ended with WWII. There was no need for it to continue with the influx of industrial growth.

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"It has been the goal of Democrats since Franklin D. Roosevelt to create a universal health care system guaranteeing health care to all people. Every other major industrialized nation has done so. It is time for this country to join them and fulfill the legacy of Franklin D. Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Lyndon B. Johnson and other great Democrats." - Bernie Sanders
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Too bad that is a basic 'Lie'. They never foresaw a 'Health CARE' System, but a universal insurance program. NOTHING has ever been established as far as a Comprehensive HEALTH CARE program, just insurance that generally Does NOT pay the bill until a leveraged deductible is spent, many never achieve their deductible thus they lose that as well the premiums spent, double dipped.
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The current plan is not a suitable answer to the problem.

I'm simply trying to show you that some democrats want different solutions, such as what Sanders put forth:

"Health care must be recognized as a right, not a privilege. Every man, woman and child in our country should be able to access the health care they need regardless of their income. The only long-term solution to America's health care crisis is a single-payer national health care program."

You are correct about the ACA not being functional, it was a gift to big pharma.

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In the days of Roosevelt, premium health CARE was in the more developed cities, small town USA still had roving doctors in buggies and early cars.

My own Father and Uncle were gathered up for a trip to our relatives in Central MO(Bem MO) in December 1930, the family starving. The car was loaded with supplies that would store, canned, smoked or processed meats, vegetables staples. The trip which today can be accomplished in a under two hours at normal highway speeds took almost a full day from Edwardsville IL. to Bem MO. A doctor was more than two hours from the home there so any serious injury was almost a death sentence. During the Depression lack of money earned doctors dinners, rooming, free clothing or stable use, even free animals rather than money so Insurance would have been useless as few could buy it.

The family in Edwardsville had the child births in the home bedroom with a midwife as doctors were not plentiful enough and time to arrive was dismal at best, again insurance would have done little good for ANY amount of money.

Perspective, and reality are excellent tools if you use them.
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Life can be very hard work, as is evident in the story you shared. In terms of health care, it is still a service that is available to some people and not available for others.

In regard to some areas of medical services, our country is not rating well compared with some other developed countries. And, with some situations, we'd actually be better off today if we could offer a doctor a horse in exchange for medical care.



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quote:

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In the days of Roosevelt, premium health CARE was in the more developed cities, small town USA still had roving doctors in buggies and early cars.

My own Father and Uncle were gathered up for a trip to our relatives in Central MO(Bem MO) in December 1930, the family starving. The car was loaded with supplies that would store, canned, smoked or processed meats, vegetables staples. The trip which today can be accomplished in a under two hours at normal highway speeds took almost a full day from Edwardsville IL. to Bem MO. A doctor was more than two hours from the home there so any serious injury was almost a death sentence. During the Depression lack of money earned doctors dinners, rooming, free clothing or stable use, even free animals rather than money so Insurance would have been useless as few could buy it.

The family in Edwardsville had the child births in the home bedroom with a midwife as doctors were not plentiful enough and time to arrive was dismal at best, again insurance would have done little good for ANY amount of money.

Perspective, and reality are excellent tools if you use them.



This isn't 1930 any longer and your story is familiar to all of us who heard it from grandparents and great grandparents.
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And as noted the 'Social Experiments' of the 1960's have not delivered as expected either. but that is another argument.

My point, which was ignored or failed to be recognized is health CARE is not that much 'Unavailable' as 'Unaffordable' where a health insurance policy does not avail either of the above to any better degree.

The Mis-labeled ACA is as far from "Affordable" as health CARE was before its inception and remains as UN-affordable yet today just with the twist that insurers are gaining income off those that cannot recoup any investment in that insurance. One of twenty, forty a hundred or more MAY be receiving some benefit while the remaining just get tagged for the bill, hardly and in no such manner is that "Affordability" just subsidizing and unfortunately still of no true value.
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