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Large dogs don't always mean I'm going to chomp your face off dog



No, but many of the guard breeds (such as those mentioned and many others) do have a bred in propensity to attack.

Many breeds of large dog have been bred to be docile (due to the difficulty of handling a large truculent dog) Even such breeds as Boxers, Staffordshires (English type)and bull mastiffs have in recent years had much of the aggression bred out of them - but you might not know how effectively it has been bred out until its too late!

Many people in all innocence (stupidity) buy a dog they like the look of or have had recommended to them without ever a thought to what the dog was bred to do, boxers were bred for years to take part in bull baiting and are still used in NZ to hunt and pin down feral pigs in a similar manner to what they did with bulls 200 years ago.

you cannot afford to over look 200 years of breeding, that said few dogs have been specifically bred to kill humans (Neopolitan Mastiff, Bull Mastiff Dogo Argentino and Fila Braziliero are the only ones that come to mind) but deprived of its natural outlet any dog bred for aggression may turn to humans.


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If I had a dog purposely for guarding the home, it would be an outside dog, always and I don't believe in that.



a guard dog outside is almost useless, a guard dog should be with what it is supposed to be guarding but really very few people really need a guard dog what they need is an alarm dog which is alert and vocal!

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I know all too many Shepherd base animals as very docile(neighbor's and friend's/family's animals), the 'Breed' does not necessarily equate to 'Danger'. St Bernards are usually quite docile yet I have seen a few that had to be caged then put down due to aggressive behavior.
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I know all too many Shepherd base animals as very docile(neighbor's and friend's/family's animals), the 'Breed' does not necessarily equate to 'Danger'. St Bernards are usually quite docile yet I have seen a few that had to be caged then put down due to aggressive behavior.



I bet it was canine hormone imbalance. Were they bitches?
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and suppose you wave a magic wand and all the pitbulls disappear, then what?
the people that want a pitbull will buy something else (Dogo Argentino, Fila Braziliero, Presa Canario) you have not solved the problem of fatal dog attacks - you will only have changed the name of the attacking breed.-mais



Banning pit bulls could still save some lives. Right now they are the biggest problem.

And I question how much of a benefit they really are to those who want them. A friend of mine had to have one put down that she loved because it started attacking other dogs in her home and turned on her when she tried to stop it.

They are very aggressive dogs.
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birdcharm, grow up, did I say that of the animals? I stated that SOME females experience hormone imbalances and YES there are clinics to treat just that, that exhibit hostility and anger tendencies that border on dangerous to others until they receive those therapies.

Young woman that had my child in 1977 was determined to be 'Bi-Polar' in the 80's, she was under a psychiatric care physician until her Mother took her to a NEW OBGYN, the NEW doctor diagnosed and se treatments for her HORMONE issue and she no longer needed the shrink. Sadly she passed in 1996 from a botched hip repair surgery in KCKs. She was actually a good person to be around after the hormone replacement therapies.
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I'm not surprised till recently bi-polar was often misdiagnosed, many don't have psychotic periods just a lot of meloncholia and depression, that is why scans have become so important. I'm assuming she was young so it wasn't a lack of hormones, it would be she was estrogen dominant and what would be treated by prescribing extra progesterone. Typically this is caused by stress, crash diets, birth control pills.
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You've got to excuse me, but when I first read this post mentioning "aggressive behavior" and then jumped to this thread where it was mentioned again, well, it begged the question as to whether or not the dogs were female! emoticon

As many have mentioned, breed in itself does not necessarily determine the demeanor of the dog, as training also plays into this, as well as environment and other things. So when things go wrong, it doesn't make sense to attribute it only to breed -- and, in terms of the other thread, we can't automatically attribute bad behaviors strictly to the state of being female (or pubescent, or pubescent female.)

For people, I personally feel that the experiences of childhood is what forms much in the way of behavior patterns or "life traps" as they have also been named. I'm not saying that hormones can't play a role; in the situation you have described, problems could have been from a combination of hormones and parental relationships. I'm sorry you lost a good friend so young.










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I'm ready for the 'eyeroll' (my husband does it) and it isn't that I disagree it can be environment but I watch Judge Judy and not a day goes by where a pit bull or mix with another large aggressive dog, usually a mastiff or English Bull Terrier has either bit or locked on to a person or another dog. The vast majority of these owners being sued are often with their kids are loving owners, a few with their smart answers you can see are neglectful to abusive, typically young males. It appears to me that you are tossing it to the wind and keeping your fingers crossed nothing happens, although all deny their dog is aggressive or dangerous, even when they have gotten a second chance, dogs that have previously bitten a person or another dog. Twice they take your dog and put it down.
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I think that people need to control their animals in all ways possible. Yet, breed in itself does not determine how a dog is going to react in any given situation, any animal with sharp teeth can be dangerous in some way.

When I had a little dog, I would walk him in the park. I always carried a pepper spray with me. He was always on a leash with a harness. It happened so often that someone with a dog not on a leash would come close. I would then find a need to call over to the owner to ask them to leash their dog. So often the reply, "he's friendly, he doesn't bite." Once they realized that my little dog was thinking he was a big dog, they seemed to understand.

The thing is that no one can tell how the animals are going to react.


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That's why I suggested a muzzle and smaller kids or persons with lack of strength not walking these dogs, that and a gate, door left open or a fence in need of repair, they escape. That is not the animals fault, I'd try and escape as well! Two ways I'd hate to go, being mauled by an animal with those teeth and burning.
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