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us court sentences 12 year old to 25 years


 12-year-old Anissa Weier and Morgan Geyser lured Payton Leutner, of the same age, into the woods and stabbed her 19 times.

Leutner did not die of her injuries

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You really should provide more details of the story. There's a bit more information that people need to understand it.

The girl who received a 25 year sentence didn't even do the stabbing. The stabber is getting a 40 year sentence.

The key thing is that both claimed mental illness and are being sentenced to mental hospitals for treatment.
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Sorry I heard this on the radio this morning and didnt get all the details.

The 25 year sentence (no 40 year term is being mentioned here) is to be served in a mental institution.

My guess if that the only 'mental defect' these girls had is that they were 12 years old and involved in a fantasy life with this "Slender Man" character

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She, her family and her attorneys claimed that she is mentally ill. Experts who examined her agreed, resulting in the sentence she received.
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two mentally ill 12 year olds apparently with the same delusion in the same school class seems remarkable

I can understand the parents wanting the diagnosis as it simultaneously mitigates their daughters offense and offers some hope of a life beyond jail and expert witnesses usually say what they are being paid to say.

I would be interested in the nature of the diagnosis

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Some more information here

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quote:

mais oui wrote:

two mentally ill 12 year olds apparently with the same delusion in the same school class seems remarkable

I can understand the parents wanting the diagnosis as it simultaneously mitigates their daughters offense and offers some hope of a life beyond jail and expert witnesses usually say what they are being paid to say.

I would be interested in the nature of the diagnosis



It happens and then there is the issue of "mental illness" which doesn't matter if you know right from wrong, wasn't that the issue with Thompson and Venables? I've also read other cases where there were two and more involved, including in serial murders. It is amazing though how two or more persons like that meet up at the same time, same place, to commit such gross acts.
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It happens and then there is the issue of "mental illness" which doesn't matter if you know right from wrong, wasn't that the issue with Thompson and Venables?



Where there is a child defendant there is a maxim in English law (doli incapax) which places a burden on the prosecution to prove that the defendant knows that what he did was wrong - so yes for Thompson and Venables there was in effect a capacity hearing to determine whether or not they could actually stand trial. (the trial judge was in no doubt that they could)

In these cases (regrettably we have had a few) there is usually a leader and a follower - in the case of T and V T was the leader and was by all accounts a thoroughly nasty individual - an assertion born out by his several periods of re incarceration since his initial release - V was a follower.

In the "slender man case" it would seem that there were two girls both suffering the same delusion and were equal (or nearly equal ) parties

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I read this.

Under Thursday’s ruling, Weier will be supervised until she is 37 but may not have to spend the full 25 years in a facility. She could be released earlier, but will have to spend at least three years in a state mental health hospital.

in 3 year's she will be 18. Usually someone who's committed a crime as a Juvenal is free to go when they turn 18. So perhaps they will free her if she no longer shows signs of her mental illness.
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From what I read she was diagnosed early onset schizophrenia, she will always be mentally ill.
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