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Some have absolutely no empathy toward anyone else some even to themselves and as such as worse than a rabid animal as they can still think. Leaving a human ANIMAL in a jail cell for basically their forever life is torturous to you or I yet for a non-empathetic individual may have no context beyond anger. I feel if they have been found guilty within a court of law without prejudice or malice just upon evidence then ridding the Earth of their useless waste of skin is quite ethical.
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If a police officer (for example) shoots someone attacking you they save your life
if someone kills someone AFTER they have killed you you remain dead-mais



Do they? There have been cases where police officers have attempted to shoot the bad guy and have killed an innocent person being held hostage by the bad guy. If you allow police officers to shoot at the bad guys there is an even greater danger to innocent people than our death penalty poses to them.

And while you would remain dead if the police officer shoots the killer after he has killed you that can easily save other innocent lives. There have been many cases where it would have done so.

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if killing some one saves a life that is a wholly different matter to just vengefully taking a life



It wouldn't just be about revenge if it is reasonable to believe that it could save other lives. And it easily could.

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You entitles the thread "Some questions for opponents of capital punishment" but you only asked one - you asked it several times but it is still only one question, do you have other questions?



Yes. Suppose a scientist came up with a drug that would kill many would-be murderers while they were trying to commit murder. For example, when they took out a gun and started shooting at some innocent person. If that drug was otherwise perfectly safe would you oppose that drug being introduced into the water supply of a large city?

In theory a drug like that might be possible and would only function when someone generated murderous rage and attempted to commit murder.
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life in prison with super-max prisons for the most dangerous



perpetual solitary confinement is cruel and unusual punishment (a clear breach of 8A) and is tantamount to torture

America has more prisoners in solitary than any other country

In the UK the number of prisoners in long term solitary (more than 28 days) is about 30 - almost 3/4 of those in solitary stay there less than 14 days

that said one prisoner has spent almost 15000 days in solitary he was committed for murder and since his committal has murdered three other inmates



I agree it is torture, there was a several part documentary on tv a couple years ago, it followed some in the county jail for 6 months to those who have life in prison. Their mental health status even after 6 months was shocking.
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Some have absolutely no empathy toward anyone else some even to themselves and as such as worse than a rabid animal as they can still think. Leaving a human ANIMAL in a jail cell for basically their forever life is torturous to you or I yet for a non-empathetic individual may have no context beyond anger. I feel if they have been found guilty within a court of law without prejudice or malice just upon evidence then ridding the Earth of their useless waste of skin is quite ethical.



You can be a spoiled selfish turd and show little empathy but those who you say have no empathy are a whole different kettle.
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Mais Oui said: "your later comment not withstanding people are not animals and if people are 'rabid' we treat them"

I answer: A biological fact is a biological fact whether you like it or not.

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***emphasis added***

 RABIES

Definition

Rabies is an acute viral disease of the central nervous system that affects humans and other mammals but is most common in carnivores (flesh-eaters). It is sometimes referred to as a zoonosis, or disease of animals that can be communicated to humans. Rabies is almost exclusively transmitted through saliva from the bite of an infected animal. Another name for the disease is hydrophobia, which literally means "fear of water," a symptom shared by half of all people infected with rabies. Other symptoms include fever, depression, confusion, painful muscle spasms, sensitivity to touch, loud noise, and light, extreme thirst, painful swallowing, excessive salivation, and loss of muscle tone. If rabies is not prevented by immunization, it is almost always fatal.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/rabies

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Prevention is NOT synchronous with treatment. Once you have been infected with rabies you are past the treatment stage, girl!

Are you ALLERGIC to research!

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If infected with rabies there is a window during which successful treatment is possible

Treatment for people bitten by animals with rabies

If you've been bitten by an animal that is known to have rabies, you'll receive a series of shots to prevent the rabies virus from infecting you. If the animal that bit you can't be found, it may be safest to assume that the animal has rabies. But this will depend on several factors, such as the type of animal and the situation in which the bite occurred.

Rabies shots include:
•A fast-acting shot (rabies immune globulin) to prevent the virus from infecting you. Part of this injection is given near the area where the animal bit you if possible, as soon as possible after the bite.
•A series of rabies vaccines to help your body learn to identify and fight the rabies virus. Rabies vaccines are given as injections in your arm. You receive four injections over 14 days.


can you perhaps tells us where and when you gained your medical degree?
(touché)

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Rabies shots are a form of prevention and are given BEFORE the virus can take hold. I don't have a medical degree which is why I researched the topic and posted the findings with a link to that authority.

https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/rabies


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Rabies vaccine contains inactivated rabies virus. It works by provoking the body's immune response to this virus, without actually causing the disease. When the body is exposed to foreign organisms, such as bacteria and viruses, the immune system produces antibodies against them. Antibodies help the body recognize and kill the foreign organisms.


Rabies vaccine - NetDoctor

www.netdoctor.co.uk/medicines/infections/a7899/rabies-vaccine/




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THIS IS CALLED RESEARCH, Mais Oui!

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If you've been bitten by an animal that is known to have rabies, you'll receive a series of shots




 you'll receive a series of shots = TREATMENT

even if you dont get the shots and go on to develop full rabies YOU STILL GET TREATMENT (it probably wont save you but you still get it)

an animal just gets put down - even if you could afford the treatment most would just do the kind thing and euthanize the animal.


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THIS IS CALLED RESEARCH,



I prefer the term "dredging the internet"

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https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/36/1/60/283656

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And the reason I dislike philosophy.
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