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Flat-Earthers are back: 'It’s almost like the beginning of a new religion'


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YouTube videos and spiffy websites espouse the conspiracy theory – but is the movement doomed to once again fall flat over countless schisms?


Beau Dure

YouTube user TigerDan925 shocked his 26,000 followers recently by conceding a shocking point: Antarctica is a continent. It’s not, as he previously thought, an ice wall that encircles the flat disc of land and water we call earth.

For most of us, that’s not news. But TigerDan925’s followers, like Galileo’s 17th century critics, are outraged by his heresy. Welcome to the contentious universe of flat-Earthers – people who believe the notion of a globe-shaped world orbiting the sun is a myth
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Through popular YouTube videos and spiffy sites, they show how easy it is to get attention by questioning scientific consensus.

Unfortunately, we don’t really know how many people believe in the movement because so many people in it accuse each other of being as fake as Santa Claus (or perhaps the moon landing).

That being said, TigerDan925’s admission was not a concession that the world is shaped like the globe. He merely said flat-Earthers need a new map. But for his community, he might as well have abandoned them altogether:

“Next he says the Antarctica is not governed and protected by the Illuminati, that somehow any group deciding to buy and invest in equipment is free to roam anywhere by plane or on land,” writes a user by the name Chris Madsen. “This is absolute rubbish ... 2016 is the year it becomes common knowledge the earth is flat, just like 9/11 became common knowledge, no stopping the truth now. ”

Such schisms are commonplace in flat-Earthdom, where at least three websites are vying to be the official meeting ground for the movement to save us all from the delusion that our world is a globe. Their differences range from petty (who came up with which idea first) to shocking and offensive (whether Jewish people are to blame for suppressing flat-Earth thought). And they regard each other with deep suspicion – almost as if they can’t believe that anyone else would believe what they do.

“[The multiple sites are] just the tip of the iceberg,” said flat-Earth convert Mark Sargent, who used his two decades of work in the tech and video game industries to create the site enclosedworld.com and a YouTube series called Flat Earth Clues. “There’s dissension in the ranks all over the place.”

Sargent compares the frenzy to the Monty Python film Life of Brian, in which Brian gains a following that immediately splits over whether to gather shoes, wear one shoe, or possibly follow a gourd.

“It’s almost like the beginning of a new religion. Everyone’s trying to define it. And they’re turning on each other because there’s no unified theory.” And so, like the People’s Front of Judea and the Judean People’s Front, they often spend far less time discussing what they believe than they spend attacking each other.


The Flat Earth Society revived in 2004 under the leadership of one Daniel Shenton and was opened to new members in 2009. A dissatisfied group split away in 2013 and launched its own site. A reunification proposal in 2014 has withered, and Shenton’s Twitter feed went cold after he posted a cryptic photo of the Terminator in September.

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A more fiery split took place when yoga teacher and conspiracy theorist Eric Dubay launched the International Flat Earth Research Society (IFERS) and claimed that the other flat-Earth groups were “controlled opposition”: a propaganda tool in which the ideological enemy pretends to be a friend to make the movement look stupid.

Dubay has since posted a lengthy Nixon-style enemies list, labeling Sargent and many other flat-Earthers “shills” who deliberately poison the movement with flawed arguments. Sargent says he was once on good terms with Dubay and doesn’t want to speak ill of him. That said, some flat-Earthers are ill at ease with Dubay because of his other work, including a documentary that claims Adolf Hitler was a decent, peace-loving fellow who has been smeared by the Zionist media. Around the turn of the year, Dubay’s discussion board has been shut down by a hosting company claiming a terms-of-service violation. He has since started fresh elsewhere, but yet another group popped up with a new site also claiming the IFERS name.

Beyond Dubay’s vitriol and a few political squabbles lies a fundamental question for flat-Earth factions: sure, the videos draw hundreds of thousands of page views, but who are the true believers?

A New York magazine piece on flat-Earthdom is skeptical of some who claim the mantle: “The line between actually believing the theory and enthusiastically entertaining is unclear. Being a Flat Earther exists in the same online space as chemtrails and the notion that 9/11 was an inside job: there are some who believe it sincerely, and magnitudes more who entertain the notion ironically.”

Some conspiracy theorists take it farther. What if all the flat-Earth talk is a big psychological experiment to see what we humans will believe in an era in which sizable groups already go against scientific consensus on vaccines, evolution and climate change?

“Maybe they want to create the perfect concoction of pseudo-science bullshit and fabricated statistics to see who will blindly follow
,” reads the opening comment of a thread in Reddit’s conspiracy theory subreddit. “They can then set up or use the same tactics to further lead the conspiracy community astray. Who else thinks this is a psy-op?”

Just in time for the X-Files revival: trust no one.



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Who cares what people in crazy cults do or think ?
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I do, try Trump and supporters, crazy became a president of the US.
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Crazy as in "crazy like a fox." Trump made use of the anger and hatred of millions of Americans to get himself elected president.
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He did much better than that. For around 5 yrs. he polled sections of conservative voters and in each state, each county, each town, whether it was they were birthers(which he never did believe)evangelicals, wealthy persons, farmers, steel workers, miners, people on the Mexican border and so on promising each group a pot of gold and he would solve all of it, "crazy like a fox" of course, a cunning, manipulative, con artist. I care what people do or think in "crazy cults' because I don't think he is any different than a 'religious' cult leader and he is in the WH.
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"I do, try Trump and supporters, crazy became a president of the US."

So what do you know about the flat earthers' politics and where did you find it ?

Just as you have a right to an opinion mine is ... as the article points outs... the flat earthers are too busy with the own complex political landscape (how best to defend the indefensible ) to be taken seriously or to have a clear broader political bent.

They are like the kids in high school whose world was playing Dragons and Dungeons, intense among their fellow players, but otherwise having no real influence or effect on their larger community.
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