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On the news here there is a woman being prosecuted for buying abortion pills for her 15 yearold daughter.
Didn't Ireland recently make abortion legal? Regardless, I'm not surprised to read about yet another woman being charged with a crime which doesn't sound like much of a crime.
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quote: Didn't Ireland recently make abortion legal?
Ity did - although I am on the island of Ireland I am not in "Ireland"
abortion here is illegal in almost all circumstances
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quote: mais oui wrote:
quote: Didn't Ireland recently make abortion legal?
Ity did - although I am on the island of Ireland I am not in "Ireland"
abortion here is illegal in almost all circumstances
What are the circumstances where it is legal?
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The reason why I started this thread was to point out something which nobody has mentioned so far in the thread.
I guess I should have made it a little more obvious.
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quote: What are the circumstances where it is legal?
If continuing the pregnancy will kill the mother - thats about it!
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quote: What are the circumstances where it is legal?
If continuing the pregnancy will kill the mother - thats about it!
That's fine but sometimes that isn't known in advance. They should take that into account.
A country that did not care more about the unborn than the safety of women would recognize that and make early abortion legal.
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BTW, the initial reason for starting this thread was to point out that the abortion issue plays a major role in shaping politics in this country. It's largely what drives the extreme Christian conservatives and leads them to support candidates like Trump.
It energizes those folks and gets them to the polls to support any sort of politician as long as he or she claims to be "pro-life." They could be the worst sort of creep imaginable but if they claim to be "pro-life" they will win out over anyone who doesn't.
It pretty much explains why they have such a low opinion of liberals and democrats whom they associate with what they consider a basic evil in this society. No matter how good a candidate or person any liberal or democrat is, in the minds of these "pro-lifers" they will be something closely resembling a demon.
It's pretty hard to get the vote of someone who considers you to be something akin to a demon.
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Exactly Philer!
IMHO the right wing-nutz are only interested in a live birth and don't really give two hoots after the child is born whether it's being taking care of.
They're also scared to death that a LGBT person will adopt a baby and give it a home. I doubt the LGBT parents could be any worse than some hetero-sexual parents, if they tried.
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quote: That's fine but sometimes that isn't known in advance. They should take that into account.
Sorry take WHAT into account?
In the year 2016-17 there were 13 legal abortions in Northern Ireland
- this however includes surgical removal of products of conception subsequent to a missed miscarriage or a spontaneous abortion
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quote: mais oui wrote:
quote: That's fine but sometimes that isn't known in advance. They should take that into account.
Sorry take WHAT into account?
In the year 2016-17 there were 13 legal abortions in Northern Ireland
- this however includes surgical removal of products of conception subsequent to a missed miscarriage or a spontaneous abortion
Take into account the fact that sometimes it isn't known in advance whether complications of the pregnancy will be lethal for the pregnant woman. In some cases by the time that is known it's too late to save the woman. A society which believes that saving the life of the pregnant woman justifies abortion won't be able to do that in some cases if it doesn't allow early abortion on demand.
A country like Ireland can't consistently act to save the lives of pregnant women by allowing abortion in a few cases and then turn around and restrict abortion when allowing it would save even more pregnant women from fatal complications. That makes no sense and indicates that it doesn't really care all that much about those women despite its token efforts to save a few of them.
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