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Islam is a corrupting influence on Muslim people because they have to maintain a high level of irrationality in order to be a Muslim



ranks as one of the dumbest posts Ive ever read!



That's pure baloney, just like Islam.

Anything which requires people to be stupid to believe it has to have a corrupting influence on them. Even our own "war on drugs" requires people to believe too much bullshit to accept it as a good idea. That has led to all sorts of problems generated by those who believe in it and lots of corruption of various sorts.
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Islam is a corrupting influence on Muslim people because they have to maintain a high level of irrationality in order to be a Muslim



ranks as one of the dumbest posts Ive ever read!



As I see it, the quote is not madly wrong and it rather covers all religions.



It's not wrong at all and as I point out, it doesn't just apply to religions. Any ideology or anything else which requires people to believe nonsense has to have a corrupting influence on them. Our "war on drugs" is one of the best examples.
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You have fanatics in all religions and you have persons who call themselves Jews, Muslims or Christians who are not in the business of practicing religion, I found that very common in London. Even religion is not black/white. I would not want to be a Muslim in Israel/Palestine or here. I had several close friends of mixed religious marriage between Muslim/Christian, in the UK there was no issue, it seemed no different than persons who marry that are of different political parties. Of course though they were in the religious lite crowd. I don't know any Muslims in my town and yet we have the largest mosque in Oregon a couple miles away. I think that says a lot about how we integrate and what our personal opinion is, if you just get your info from media.



One of the best things about some people who claim to follow a religion is that they don't follow it too closely. It's when they follow something like Islam closely that there are problems.
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There are so many contradictions in most religions that to follow any particular one leaves a variety of options.
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There are options. People have dropped out in masses of not only attending religious houses. People were fed up by the dogma, they got smarter than the religious leaders and what were in those books of theirs. I've said before I've noticed including myself a different type of spirituality that you can find in a few places here and there in those books and take away and not be of any religion/faith. I have referred to all the faiths of persons like this as in LDS, "jack Mormons," you don't go to church, you don't practice the faith but you have taken away certain elements that seem more to be "Christian" or "Muslim" or "Jewish" but one of turning the other cheek, being charitable, compassionate, non judgmental, the stuff those "real Christians" call you out on cause you don't believe in Adam and Eve but evolution, Noah's Ark and so on. It is the same with Muslims, they are not all terrorists, they don't all beat their wives, they don't all believe in cutting off their bits and pieces. All Jews are not Zionists. "Most religions" I can include Buddhism, rebirth to Nirvana, heck I'd be here for millions of years. emoticon

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I'm amused by your looking at different religions and picking and choosing little bits that you seem to believe are nice to adopt as good guidelines for how to behave. Religions aren't smorgasbords where you get to choose what you're going to take away from them.

Of course you can do that but what you're really doing is following your own judgment, not what any religion is telling you to do. Otherwise how do you know how to pick and choose what's good out of all the questionable stuff that many religions dish out?

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Of course I can do what I want and I don't choose to belong to organized religion and I have no clue why you are "amused." To say I pick the "little bits" as if there is something wrong with that? I listed those "little bits" and I don't see them as religious doctrine but a human one. I did as a child, teen, young adult attend church, a very loose one. What I took away anyone with a grain of morals/ethics is no different who never spent a day in church or read any religious text, you don't need religion at all, I just happened to "learn" them then, quite young and I'm glad for it as by about 10-11 I got what organized religion of what I saw as hate and discrimination could do. It was then when I first got a "mouth" towards peers and adults in my family.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with picking bits out of a religion and taking those to be good while rejecting other parts but you're not really following the religion when you do that. You're using your judgment to decide what parts to pick out which calls into question why you are bothering to pick out the bits in the first place.

As you said, if you do that "you don't need religion at all."
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There's nothing inherently wrong with picking bits out of a religion and taking those to be good while rejecting other parts but you're not really following the religion when you do that. You're using your judgment to decide what parts to pick out which calls into question why you are bothering to pick out the bits in the first place.

As you said, if you do that "you don't need religion at all."



The problem is that there is so much of the Christian religion contradicted by other parts of the Christian religion that it is impossible to steer a consistant path.
Same goes with Islamic and Judaic fantasies.
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There's nothing inherently wrong with picking bits out of a religion and taking those to be good while rejecting other parts but you're not really following the religion when you do that. You're using your judgment to decide what parts to pick out which calls into question why you are bothering to pick out the bits in the first place.

As you said, if you do that "you don't need religion at all."



The problem is that there is so much of the Christian religion contradicted by other parts of the Christian religion that it is impossible to steer a consistant path.
Same goes with Islamic and Judaic fantasies.



No, it's possible. You just have to do what katie did and pick out consistent parts. Of course she apparently did that with different religions but as long as the parts picked out are consistent there's no problem.

Of course when you do that you're not really following any religion.

In the case of Christianity you have to follow the teachings of Jesus to truly be a Christian.

In the case of Islam your best bet is not to follow any of it. If you believe in that religion you're asking for trouble.
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