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And there was a time when Lucy & Ricky had to sleep in twin beds as that would lead to teen sex/pregnancy. The violence by videos/film has long and by decades long studies proved wrong. TV news is real which makes it far more frightening, film takes its cues from real life.
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And there was a time when Lucy & Ricky had to sleep in twin beds as that would lead to teen sex/pregnancy. The violence by videos/film has long and by decades long studies proved wrong. TV news is real which makes it far more frightening, film takes its cues from real life.



If movies take their cue from real life then why don't we see serial killer films which depict serial killers who murder children? There are plenty of that kind of serial killer in real life but I have never seen one serial killer movie which tells the story of any of them nor one about a fictional killer which depicts in graphic detail their serial murder of children.

Why not? According to you and studies as well as the film industry such films would be harmless. And they would definitely be taking their cue from real life. And certainly if entertaining people by horrifying them is the goal what better way is there to do that than to present graphic images of young children being butchered by vicious serial killers? People would definitely be horrified.

Film makers want to take people to the edge with depictions of violence? Let's see one make that kind of film. I dare them.

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I have no idea if there is or isn't and I can't be bothered to look. Murder of children takes place all the time, whether tv, movies, including docus. I don't know why you picked serial murders and kids.
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I have no idea if there is or isn't and I can't be bothered to look. Murder of children takes place all the time, whether tv, movies, including docus. I don't know why you picked serial murders and kids.



To make a couple of points about the nature of the film industry and what they are turning out. They aren't merely making movies based on what happens in real life. They are picking and choosing what kind of films to make based on their own personal preferences.

For some reason a lot of film makers want to make films about serial killers but they carefully avoid ones about serial killers who victimize children. Why? Because that doesn't turn them on? And/or they know that this society wouldn't tolerate such rubbish while it will tolerate the same kind of crap if the victims in the films are young women? Or perhaps they wouldn't want to do anything to promote that kind of crime against children. They wouldn't want to even take the chance of increasing the odds of such a crime happening.

It can't be morally wrong to make one kind of serial killer film and not the other. And if only one kind is or would be offensive or of concern to people that just tells me that there is something wrong with both the film industry and the society that tolerates such trash.
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Documentary on TV here last night about (American) child killers seems to be one of a run of them

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Documentary on TV here last night about (American) child killers seems to be one of a run of them



A documentary about American child killers is very different from fictional films about that kind of criminal meant to scare and entertain people. I can't recall seeing any films like that.
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We see babies and kids killed all the time in tv and movies, I don't get your point about serial killers and kids in movies. I am assuming since there is plenty of docus made on child serial killers, it is not a subject most film makers care to touch in a regular movie, although I did look it up and found 26 films on serial killers and the young. Just maybe you missed them........
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There was a fictional film about a child killer on TCM today, the American remake of "M." It's a thoughtful albeit inaccurate film about child killers but it didn't depict their murder in graphic detail like many serial killer films depict the murder of adults, often young female victims.

You probably will not see any films which depict child killers going around butchering children in graphic detail to entertain people. I doubt the 26 films you mention do but it's hard to know since you didn't provide the website where you got that info.

If it did happen I suspect both the film and the film maker would be very unpopular.

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I watched part of "M" till I had to go the grocery store. My tv is often on TCM. I don't expect to see graphic child murders neither would I snuff films or some of those gore films from the 60's/70's they were disgusting. I think people draw boundaries especially with kids. I was reading an article about child serial killers, between the 1920's-90's one in Colombia in the 40's was a man who killed 138 kids and they think there were more. The article was said to be the worst of the worst and it was, countries from all over the world, Russia, Japan, Brazil, Denmark, UK had 3 as did the US.
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Yes, people draw boundaries with kids. That's part of what I'm getting at. My question is why the double standard? Remember we're talking make believe, not reality. Why would it bother people to see little kids depicted as the victims of brutal violence if it doesn't bother them to see adults depicted that way in films?

Both happen in real life. And supposedly films don't have any impact on real life according to some people so what's the problem in seeing depictions of little kids being viciously murdered in serial killer films?

I suspect it's because people care about and respect kids enough not to want to see them depicted that way. There also may be some concern that something like that would result in real life victimization of children by wackos who would imitate what they saw in the film.

I see no reason not to have that same concern about adults being depicted as victims in those kinds of films. I'm not a big believer in double standards.
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