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What a guy!
I wondered why prosecutor Juan Martinez was so gung ho on getting the death penalty for Jodi Arias in a state where lots of men who murdered their girl friends weren't even facing life sentences after being convicted of less than first degree murder. I figured he might be some kind of a prejudiced, sexist creep and apparently I was right.
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Martinez was facing a disciplinary hearing over allegations of lying about leaking information to a blogger he was having an affair with, communicating with a dismissed juror, leaking information on the identity of a jury who was the lone holdout against giving Arias the death penalty, and sexually harassing several female co-workers.
https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/law-firm-representing-jodi-arias-files-ethics-complaints-against-juan-martinez-county-attorney-bill-montgomery
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the judge in the case tossed out sweeping sexual harassment allegations against Martinez. i must say after reading the complaint, which is below
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6213103-MartinezEthicsComplaint03012019.html
he clearly lied about the affair he had for several years,
but the rest of the allegations are very weak.
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Based on what I read about him there's a very good chance that he's a creep. One other thing I noticed has implications regarding our criminal justice system. Look at how many people admired him for his gung ho efforts to convict Jodi Arias of first degree murder and obtain the death penalty in her case. He became a very popular celebrity for trying to get her the death penalty, particularly among women.
I thought it was an indication that there was something wrong with the guy but most people, the kind of people who seem to get on juries, thought it was neat. Where were those people when men who killed their girlfriends weren't even convicted of first degree murder? Sometimes not even second degree murder. Where was the concern about them getting back out of prison?
There's a big double standard. Women like Jodi Arias are subjected to a different application of the rule of law than men. And that double standard is not only very popular but accepted with no recognition that it even exists.
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BTW, the mere fact that a judge threw out some allegations against Martinez doesn't prove anything. Based on that document you cited there's enough evidence of unprofessional conduct to indicate the kind of guy Martinez is.
I doubt that him being a creep and unprofessional or even any violation of the rules on his part will enable Jodi Arias to get a new trial but she probably should get another one. Even if she does, considering the system in place she'd probably see the same result.
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Jodi Arias, is the one with something seriously wrong with her.
as far as I can tell he did nothing wrong as a prosecutor.
This trial took four years of his life. He was surrounded by people interested in the case, so having a sexual relationship
with a blogger, for two years, during that time.
isn't surprising. lying about it is does warrant further investigation, however.
I Don't know if that will be enough to strip him of his license to practice law in Arizona. This seems to be pointless, but when you're in prison for life, all you got is time to stir things up and waste taxpayers' dollars.
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Jodi doesn't have anything wrong with her that wasn't also wrong with guys in Arizona who killed their girlfriends. They were all self-absorbed criminals concerned about how they supposedly had been mistreated. But those men didn't wind up with a first degree murder conviction and a sentence of life in prison with no parole. Some of them will only serve a few years in prison.
Any prosecutor like Martinez who is unaware of that discrepancy or who doesn't care about it shouldn't be a prosecutor. Couple that with his questionable behaviour while prosecuting the Arias case and he probably should be relieved of his job and have his license to practice law taken away.
Men and women should be treated equally in our courts when they commit the same crime. A woman who commits murder should not get a much harsher sentence than a man who commits murder. Any prosecutor who doesn't believe that and act accordingly should not continue in that profession.
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you lost me, are you saying Jodi Arias should have got less time for murder?
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you lost me, are you saying Jodi Arias should have got less time for murder?
She should have gotten the same kind of sentence that men in Arizona have received after murdering their wives or girlfriends. Men and women should be treated equally under the law.
If some state like Arizona wants to give a woman a life sentence without parole for murdering her boyfriend that's fine as long as it gives the same sort of sentence to men who murder their girlfriends.
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OK, but they were not boyfriend girlfriend when she killed him, he dumped her. If I can't have you then nobody can have you.
She killed him, when he started a new relationship.
whichever sex does this, it's just plain evil, and I don't want them out of prison ever.
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OK, but they were not boyfriend girlfriend when she killed him, he dumped her. If I can't have you then nobody can have you.
She killed him, when he started a new relationship.
whichever sex does this, it's just plain evil, and I don't want them out of prison ever.
I agree. What I object to in Arizona is Jodi Arias getting a life sentence with no parole while guys who committed the same crime against girl friends or ex girl friends will be getting out of prison, sometimes fairly quickly.
That is not justice.
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