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If the criminal justice system finding innocent women guilty has nothing to do with prejudice against women then there should be a proportional number of innocent men found guilty under similar circumstances.

If that doesn't happen in the case of white men but does in case of white women that's an indication that it isn't an "innocent" flaw in the system that is to blame.

What people need to understand is that our criminal justice system does not operate purely on the basis of evidence. It largely operates on the basis of bias, prejudice and the various levels of respect that people have for their fellow Americans. Sometimes outright hatred motivates a jury to find some woman guilty of a crime she did not commit. Debra Milke seems to be a good example of that.



You can't just make up statements but you are! It is common sense to me that if men make up 92.9% of the prison population and women 7.1%, the men are the ones getting screwed royally. Women can actually be as evil as a man, society has a hard time of looking at females other than as nurturers and carers, that is not all of our MO and I think more often than not because of that society and juries are lighter on white women than all men. Look at it this way regarding women and women of a darker colour, Huffman spent 11 days in jail where that African American woman spent 5 yrs for going out of school boundaries. You want fair, well I'm pale white woman and I see no fairness for minorities of a darker colour no matter the gender and I can't help notice, how often to you post support for women in jail or wrongly convicted who are not of the pale white colour? Better yet, how about men of any colour? You read and decide, dumb jury end of story, just on the merit of being female, you don't agree, it doesn't work that way.
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Of course black women are going to be discriminated against also and I've talked about cases in which that has happened. One black woman was convicted of second degree murder by another dumb jury when what she was doing was defending herself from a man who was attacking her. And the jury knew that he had attacked her because he survived long enough to confess that he had. He kicked in a bathroom door and dragged her out of there by the hair on her head. But she being a woman wasn't entitled to defend herself seemed to be what the jury was saying.

But people know that black people are discriminated against in our court system. What they continue to have a problem seeing is the discrimination against white women compared to white men. I almost get a kick out of people whining about Felicity Huffman only getting a two week sentence when she shouldn't have been sent to prison at all. Wasn't she a first time offender? Was her crime a serious violent crime or major theft? No. And yet she is now an ex-convict and of course her completely innocent and ignorant husband knew nothing about her nefarious crime and doesn't have to worry about going to prison at all or even going to trial. If you believe that he was innocent and didn't know what was going on I've got some nice swampland in Louisiana you might be interested in buying.

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Oh I think when you look at pale white women in the system, they get a break. "Nefarious" is usually saved for mafia and the worst of felons, Huffman is not nefarious, just dumb. She is not Harvey Weinstein or Kevin Spacey, she'll act again and I would watch. For decades you don't get a school involved or a middle man for big bucks, you find and they are plentiful, some bright kid who'll take 500 bucks and take it for you. You can also pay them a bit more and they'll take a entire semester class you don't do well in. What I believe, her husband did check it out and said no, she went and did it anyway, do you think this is uncommon between a husband and wife, if it is, colour me guilty and my husband as well. Being a spouse does not mean you are 100% on the same train of thought, actually it is one of the greatest problems in marriage, that you aren't and in those times, it's a rough period as there is a winner or loser or what some are smart enough to do, compromise. I do try hard on that as it makes for a far better marriage and we married in our mid 40's and I wasn't up for any !@#$ after taking mass amounts but sometimes, I'm not letting go what I think is right and neither is he, and it gets quite unpleasant.
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Actually to be more honest, about three times a year, it gets down and dirty to shouting and swearing, far more than unpleasant!
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"Pale, white women" tend not to get a break, as I've pointed out.
Debra Milke and lots of other white women didn't.

And why the term "pale" added to white women? To me that's like calling a black man a dark black man. Kind of silly.

TV talk show host Conan O'Brien has referred to himself as pale quite a bit and it always seemed like he was to some extent bemoaning the fact that he was a white guy of Irish descent. There's nothing wrong with being white for goodness sake. You don't need to apologize for it.
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And why the term "pale" added to white women? To me that's like calling a black man a dark black man. Kind of silly.


you think that all white people are the same colour and all black people are the same colour?

NEWS FLASH there are a myriad shades of hue in both 'white' and 'black' people


(Irish people can be so pale as to be almost translucent!)

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(Irish people can be so pale as to be almost translucent!)-mais

Maybe that's what inspired H. G. Wells to write "The Invisible Man."
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And why the term "pale" added to white women? To me that's like calling a black man a dark black man. Kind of silly.


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you think that all white people are the same colour and all black people are the same colour?

NEWS FLASH there are a myriad shades of hue in both 'white' and 'black' people-mais



I wasn't trying to dismiss your post with that joke, mais. I know that all white people are not the same color and that all black people are not the same color. I also realize that despite language to the contrary, white people are also people of color.

But people who are white who aren't "pale" and people who are black who aren't "dark" are simply people with other colors added to their skin color. A purely white person is not "pale" as much as just a white person. And a purely black person is not "dark" as much as they are simply just black with no shadings of brown, tan etc.

Conan O'Brien is a white guy and there is no need for him to excuse himself for being "pale" as if that hurts people's eyes. To me that is very similar to a black man apologizing to people for being too dark. It's just plain silly.
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I did the pale white on purpose since you acknowledge a severe pale spectrum in black/ black and white /white, which seems common now for both black, white, brown persons with themselves and their enemies. People in their own race/ethnicity have found it important to identify all colour schemes or not.......
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