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You keep repeating this society doesn't want women to have weapons, what society exactly is that? That is quite glib and I have never heard or read one person suggesting a hairbrush or a broken mirror! No offense but you seem to be making it up as you go along. The bottom line is like men, I can go out and buy a gun without anyone saying as a woman I don't think you should have a weapon!



In the 1970's and before, women were often counseled to carry a small gun in their purse, especially if they had a night job.

These days the male police are saying silly and false things like that if women carry a gun it is more likely to be used against them instead of by them.
There are no statistic supporting that, and on the face of it is has to be ridiculous, because a woman with a gun should be just as formidable as a male cop with a gun.

In the past, police would congratulate women for carrying a weapon. These days, they would arrest her. The police are carrying out a very political and biased agenda. This is likely due to the high rate of take over of police by people with biased military backgrounds.



There are not any statistics supporting women shouldn't carry guns by the police because there are none. Women are part of the police force and holding a gun no matter your gender is insignificant. That women choose not to have or carry a weapon may seem illogical to certain people but it is a choice, made by a woman not some false set of society/men/cops diss women for having a weapon, that is a big load of baloney. What is disagreed is that choice that women make not to have one. We actually to our detriment or not allowed to make that choic
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This one. Societies tend to get what they want and this one obviously doesn't want to see to any significant extent women carrying guns or other weapons around to protect themselves from violent criminals. Lots of things indicate that including the fact that relatively few women who have needed to have a weapon handy have had one. Also, some women who have used their own weapons to defend themselves have been arrested for doing so. Then of course there is all the media avoidance of the obvious fact that women could benefit from carrying a weapon combined with active efforts to get women to do something other than carry a weapon.



That is an opinion,, when have women been arrested for carrying a legal weapon vs men and what news media says women shouldn't carry a weapon? I've never heard that once. No one cares whether a woman carries a weapons unless you are a person who doesn't think anyone should carry a weapon.



They weren't arrested just for carrying a legal weapon but they have been for using them in self-defense. And naturally the news media is not going to tell women not to carry a weapon, that would be a little too obvious. What they do is tell stories about bad things that have happened when women have used weapons. They also never point out that carrying a weapon is a way that women could effectively protect themselves from violent criminals.

Unfortunately lots of people care whether women carry a weapon and in particular a gun. Lots of liberals, including posters here, have claimed that is a bad idea. That it is liable to result in more harm than good.

And many women apparently believe that BS because they don't carry guns or any other kind of weapon. We need to be hearing news stories where a woman defended herself with a weapon instead of ones where she merely scratched or otherwise slightly injured some cretin who was out to harm her.
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You keep repeating this society doesn't want women to have weapons, what society exactly is that? That is quite glib and I have never heard or read one person suggesting a hairbrush or a broken mirror! No offense but you seem to be making it up as you go along. The bottom line is like men, I can go out and buy a gun without anyone saying as a woman I don't think you should have a weapon!



In the 1970's and before, women were often counseled to carry a small gun in their purse, especially if they had a night job.

These days the male police are saying silly and false things like that if women carry a gun it is more likely to be used against them instead of by them.
There are no statistic supporting that, and on the face of it is has to be ridiculous, because a woman with a gun should be just as formidable as a male cop with a gun.

In the past, police would congratulate women for carrying a weapon. These days, they would arrest her. The police are carrying out a very political and biased agenda. This is likely due to the high rate of take over of police by people with biased military backgrounds.



There are not any statistics supporting women shouldn't carry guns by the police because there are none. Women are part of the police force and holding a gun no matter your gender is insignificant. That women choose not to have or carry a weapon may seem illogical to certain people but it is a choice, made by a woman not some false set of society/men/cops diss women for having a weapon, that is a big load of baloney. What is disagreed is that choice that women make not to have one. We actually to our detriment or not allowed to make that choic



If police did not want to prevent women from being armed, then they would not be arresting 10,000 women a year for being armed.
https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-2014/tables/table-42

It is true there are also police women these days, but I don't think most police like women being police, and women police also arrest women who are armed.

The main reason fewer honest people are armed these days is that you are then much more likely to get arrested.

Regardless if that is coming from the top or the police on the bottom, the idea of having a disarmed population is illegal and can only be intent on turning this into a police state. And women are the biggest losers in a police state, where it becomes too risky to be able to protect yourself.
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Well that was pitiful, women who have committed illegal acts is your source and 10,000 compared to millions and millions of women over 18! Fewer people are armed, yet the stats continually go up on gun owners, what fewer people? No one is suggesting a "disarmed population" that is your mind not what is.
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No one is suggesting a "disarmed population" that is your mind not what is.-katie



People have been suggesting a disarmed population of women for a long time based on notions of them not being competent to carry guns and needing to depend on the police for their protection. That old liberal double standard claiming that a woman carrying a gun is likely to result in harm to some innocent party including herself while a police officer carrying a gun is perfectly acceptable and not likely to do so makes no sense. Just like other irrational double standards based on the idea that women are less competent than men.

Thinking along those lines has resulted in far too many women being unarmed when they needed to be carrying a gun or some other effective weapon.
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You keep saying that but yet have provided nothing. As a very liberal women who has owned weapons I have never heard or read where anyone suggested woman shouldn't have weapons. Repeating something over and over does not make it true.
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You keep saying that but yet have provided nothing. As a very liberal women who has owned weapons I have never heard or read where anyone suggested woman shouldn't have weapons. Repeating something over and over does not make it true.



C'mon, katie. It has even been portrayed as a bad idea here by at least a couple of posters who have claimed that women possessing or carrying guns is a bad idea. Mais was one of the posters who did so.

It's a very popular and common idea in this society that women carrying guns is a bad thing for them to do that is prone to result in more harm to them and other innocent people than it is likely to protect them from criminals. If that were not the case many more women would be carrying handguns and other weapons to protect themselves from criminals. Or are you suggesting that it is not really a good idea for women to carry such weapons so that a woman deciding not to is something to be admired?

I would like to see more violent criminals stopped in their tracks. Women being armed is one way to bring that about. It's very interesting that a lot of liberal folks in this society don't quite see it that way.
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Gimme a break, Mais is from a country where gun laws work for everyone, she has never said men should, women shouldn't. That is a classic "Trumpism" It is "common" in this society, bullshit.
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It has to be a popular and common idea that carrying guns or other weapons is a bad idea for women or more of them would carry guns or other weapons.

That would be true even if it was a bad idea.

Of course in reality it is anything but a bad idea. It's an effective way to reduce violent crime. One of the most effective ways to do so but that's not how it is portrayed in the mass media, by the police or by home security firms.
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It is a personal choice, that women choose not to own a weapon is entirely different than women choose not to own a weapon, yet 1 in 5 do and there is no mass media that says women shouldn't own a gun, matter of fact I've never heard one media outlet make that statement. It is not "popular" it is not "common" and you are making it up for some unknown reason.
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