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Why did the Prima Donna murder his parents?


The biggest clue is the fact that he is a self-absorbed Prima Donna. From his perspective his parents were being mean to him and it was OK to shoot them because they were. Of course reality was something entirely different. Not long before she was shot and killed his mom had bought him a condo for over 230 thousand dollars and a white Prius. Perhaps she should have just given him her home and moved into a shack some place else along with her husband. Maybe that would have satisfied him that she cared enough about him.

These are some excerpts from an article that you should read if you want to understand how parents can create the monsters that I call Prima Donnas who turn to violent crime, in this case the double murder of his parents. Will it still be a mystery to you? Perhaps but it is definitely an article worth reading. It could easily be turned into a TV movie and probably should be.

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But numbing shock turned to utter disbelief less than a month later, when police announced they had arrested Ashton Colby Sachs, the couples’ second-oldest son. The case against the teen includes his own words and damning physical evidence. Inside the white Toyota Prius that his mother recently had bought him, police found a Ruger semiautomatic rifle. A ballistics expert testified at a grand jury hearing that the bullets recovered from the mansion had been fired from that weapon.

But to this day, his motive remains a mystery.

“This is where I hit a wall,” says Ruth Briscoe, another longtime friend of Andra Sachs’. “What would trigger him?”

Ashton told Orange County sheriff’s detectives shortly after his arrest that he didn’t have a reason, “just a lot of problems.” His life, he said, was “fucked up.” He’d stopped going to school, and was spending his time smoking pot and playing video games. He said he didn’t trust his parents, who’d made him feel like “crap” by favoring his siblings. His plan had been to shoot the couple and kill himself, he told detectives, but he couldn’t explain why he wounded Landon and shot at Alexis.

But Briscoe remembers him as “one of those squirrely kids who didn’t have boundaries” and was “always looking for an audience. He didn’t like the word ‘no.’ He didn’t really have coping skills.”

Andra’s remedy for Ashton’s ills was, as Briscoe puts it, “to give him a clean slate” by moving him to Seattle in 2013. His brother Myles, a student at Washington State University, would be nearby, as would Nina Lifschultz, one of his mother’s closest friends. Andra had taken care of Lifschultz’s son Schuyler when he needed to get away from Seattle, Andra’s sister Stephanie Garber says. “It was reciprocated that Nina would watch her kids.” Ashton enrolled at North Seattle Community College—it may have been too late to apply to a four-year school for the fall semester—and his mother set him up in style, buying him a condo for $233,500, as well as the white Prius.



https://www.orangecoast.com/features/ashton-sachs-says-shot-family/
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Yet millions of adult kids live in their parents basement or if they can afford it provide a home and transport for their kids and they don't murder them. Spoiling your kids isn't a good enough reason for murder, they are happy enough with what they got. I won't disagree there are cases where that is not true as brought up with the Menendez brothers, spoiled and abused but at the end of the day, they didn't murder because of abuse, they murdered for money. It brings up the question whether rich or poor millions of kids are "spoiled" and millions don't murder their parents.
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Yet millions of adult kids live in their parents basement or if they can afford it provide a home and transport for their kids and they don't murder them. Spoiling your kids isn't a good enough reason for murder, they are happy enough with what they got. I won't disagree there are cases where that is not true as brought up with the Menendez brothers, spoiled and abused but at the end of the day, they didn't murder because of abuse, they murdered for money. It brings up the question whether rich or poor millions of kids are "spoiled" and millions don't murder their parents.



There's much more to it than just being spoiled as I've explained. It's being wrapped up in yourself and what you want while seeing others as subordinate to what you want that is the problem. It also can involve feeling sorry for yourself even when you have absolutely no good reason to do so as in the case of Ashton Sachs. It's the Prima Donna personality that is the problem which involves much more than just being spoiled.

A person like Sachs is so wrapped up in himself and what he wants to the exclusion of any consideration or concern about others that he can easily become a menace to them. And that's exactly what happened. To understand someone like him you have to understand that he is so focused on his own "wonderful" personality from his perspective and how it is not being acknowledged as it should be(in his view) that he can lash out at people he should love and respect as if they were some kind of enemy.

To a large extent people like him have never grown up intellectually or emotionally. They are essentially giant cry babies who believe they've been greatly wronged when nothing of the kind has occurred.
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I do understand that but there is far more to it. I do disagree with the intellectual bit there plenty of various types of psycho/sociopath illnesses or so called prima donnas who are average to a high IQ. Every case, every person is different, you can find serial murders with normal childhoods, some dysfunctional as what I'd call neglect, if you choose to have kids but not horrific, others horrific. I brought up they Menendez Bros. for a reason, they were obviously spoiled "prima donnas" but very bad stuff went on in that house for a very long time. I think it became a deadly combination because kids wait till their folks pass even if they are greedy sods and if they are spoiled rotten, daddy is handing it out.
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A lack of intelligence is not the problem. It's a lack of rationality. Prima Donnas are not rational people. That's why they can care about some less important personal agenda more than they do fellow human beings, sometimes their own parents.

The Menendez brothers are a good example but we don't really know that they were abused. They claimed to be but that appears to have been a ploy to escape going to prison or getting a reduced sentence.

Those kinds of ploys have worked in some cases but not surprisingly they seem to work better for males than they do females. In one case a teenage boy was able to spend only a few years in prison after murdering his younger sister, his stepmom and his father. He claimed to have been abused. More than likely he was just a Prima Donna.

To a Prima Donna being required to do your chores on a ranch can qualify as abuse.
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I'm surprised you used the word rational as a lack when being irrational, when the meaning is not normal, no mental clarity, not logical or reasonable. That describes persons who are not "normal" to what the rest of call "abnormal."
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I'm surprised you used the word rational as a lack when being irrational, when the meaning is not normal, no mental clarity, not logical or reasonable. That describes persons who are not "normal" to what the rest of call "abnormal."



There is more than one kind of irrationality. One is generated by severe mental illness. The other is generated by poor, sloppy thinking. The latter is the more common and problematic form of irrationality. And it is far too common more or less reaching the level of "normal."
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And sometimes they come together.
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True but the biggest problem are those who are irrational with no mental illness.
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They aren't and that is the biggest problem. In OR. we have one state pen and one state mental institution in a state with 4.2 million persons. Every couple years or so the prison guards go on strike, more pay or get the 35% of mentally ill out of the state pen. They can't play doctor/nurse for the seriously ill and they spend their day trying to keep "normal" criminals away from the mentally ill criminals, which takes most their day, protecting the mentally ill from "normal" criminals. It is not normal to be "irrational" especially considering the gross crimes.
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