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Re: "Fighting" racism
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"But since that can't be inherent or have evolved, then there has to be something wrong with our culture that is causing, training, or somehow conditioning people to be Prima Donnas." (so may-by murders ?)
I don't wish to derail the conversation, but can others see how this thinking is just one step short of the most nasty sort of racism ?
The missing link would be why can't "them"people be just like me with my superior culture, even as that culture excludes them.
Think in terms of how different some people's life experience is because of how the State interacts with them with the police and legal system.
Yes, the police likely are one of the biggest factors in creating criminals. When people see unfair abuse by police, they will resent it and work against whatever the police represent.
I know that is true with me.
I grew up in an area wealthy enough so everyone had off street parking. So you could park on the street anytime you wanted, and never get a ticket.
But going to college, I have to move near the school, in a poor area that had no off streeet parking. And I had to get up at 1:00 in the morning each day, in order to wipe off the chalk, so that I would not get a ticket, Clearly the police were illegally going for the easy revenue, and deliberately discriminating against the poor. And why should the poor have to pay in order to park in front of their own rental home? It was infuriating. It made me want to commit a crime.
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So do your white guy problems really qualify you as an expert ?
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So do your white guy problems really qualify you as an expert ?
Not white guy problems, but contrast between economic neighborhoods showed economic discrimination problems.
I am assuming racial problems are similar but larger.
Just extrapolating.
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"I am assuming"
You do that a lot.
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quote: Rigby5 wrote:
quote: Geezess wrote:
"But since that can't be inherent or have evolved, then there has to be something wrong with our culture that is causing, training, or somehow conditioning people to be Prima Donnas." (so may-by murders ?)
I don't wish to derail the conversation, but can others see how this thinking is just one step short of the most nasty sort of racism ?
The missing link would be why can't "them"people be just like me with my superior culture, even as that culture excludes them.
Think in terms of how different some people's life experience is because of how the State interacts with them with the police and legal system.
Yes, the police likely are one of the biggest factors in creating criminals. When people see unfair abuse by police, they will resent it and work against whatever the police represent.
I know that is true with me.
I grew up in an area wealthy enough so everyone had off street parking. So you could park on the street anytime you wanted, and never get a ticket.
But going to college, I have to move near the school, in a poor area that had no off streeet parking. And I had to get up at 1:00 in the morning each day, in order to wipe off the chalk, so that I would not get a ticket, Clearly the police were illegally going for the easy revenue, and deliberately discriminating against the poor. And why should the poor have to pay in order to park in front of their own rental home? It was infuriating. It made me want to commit a crime.
Wow, I bet that was rough, hope you got over it.
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Like with Trump, was it sarcasm ?
Or are you proving that woman can not only defend themselves but, Rigby, too ?
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quote: Rigby5 wrote:
quote: Geezess wrote:
"But since that can't be inherent or have evolved, then there has to be something wrong with our culture that is causing, training, or somehow conditioning people to be Prima Donnas." (so may-by murders ?)
I don't wish to derail the conversation, but can others see how this thinking is just one step short of the most nasty sort of racism ?
The missing link would be why can't "them"people be just like me with my superior culture, even as that culture excludes them.
Think in terms of how different some people's life experience is because of how the State interacts with them with the police and legal system.
Yes, the police likely are one of the biggest factors in creating criminals. When people see unfair abuse by police, they will resent it and work against whatever the police represent.
I know that is true with me.
I grew up in an area wealthy enough so everyone had off street parking. So you could park on the street anytime you wanted, and never get a ticket.
But going to college, I have to move near the school, in a poor area that had no off streeet parking. And I had to get up at 1:00 in the morning each day, in order to wipe off the chalk, so that I would not get a ticket, Clearly the police were illegally going for the easy revenue, and deliberately discriminating against the poor. And why should the poor have to pay in order to park in front of their own rental home? It was infuriating. It made me want to commit a crime.
Wow, I bet that was rough, hope you got over it.
That was a simple generic example.
What I have seen or experienced that was much worse I just don't feel like discussing.
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Like with Trump, was it sarcasm ?
Or are you proving that woman can not only defend themselves but, Rigby, too ?
That could be possible.
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quote: Rigby5 wrote:
quote: katie5445 wrote:
quote: Rigby5 wrote:
quote: Geezess wrote:
"But since that can't be inherent or have evolved, then there has to be something wrong with our culture that is causing, training, or somehow conditioning people to be Prima Donnas." (so may-by murders ?)
I don't wish to derail the conversation, but can others see how this thinking is just one step short of the most nasty sort of racism ?
The missing link would be why can't "them"people be just like me with my superior culture, even as that culture excludes them.
Think in terms of how different some people's life experience is because of how the State interacts with them with the police and legal system.
Yes, the police likely are one of the biggest factors in creating criminals. When people see unfair abuse by police, they will resent it and work against whatever the police represent.
I know that is true with me.
I grew up in an area wealthy enough so everyone had off street parking. So you could park on the street anytime you wanted, and never get a ticket.
But going to college, I have to move near the school, in a poor area that had no off streeet parking. And I had to get up at 1:00 in the morning each day, in order to wipe off the chalk, so that I would not get a ticket, Clearly the police were illegally going for the easy revenue, and deliberately discriminating against the poor. And why should the poor have to pay in order to park in front of their own rental home? It was infuriating. It made me want to commit a crime.
Wow, I bet that was rough, hope you got over it.
That was a simple generic example.
What I have seen or experienced that was much worse I just don't feel like discussing.
I grew up in my teens with a 3 car garage, a country club and limos. At 19 I had an argument with my mom about being controlling. I just got accepted at UCSF nursing school. I was at least working as well, I moved to the Fillmore district, if I went out at 1am, I'd be in deep !@#$. After that I went to VN as a nurse so I'm willing to trade "war stories" when you are.
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