Bill Maher tackles obesity https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/t4570 Runboard| Bill Maher tackles obesity en-us Thu, 28 Mar 2024 11:44:14 +0000 Thu, 28 Mar 2024 11:44:14 +0000 https://www.runboard.com/ rssfeeds_managingeditor@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds managing editor) rssfeeds_webmaster@runboard.com (Runboard.com RSS feeds webmaster) akBBS 60 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51808,from=rss#post51808https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51808,from=rss#post51808I no longer trust the CDC or FDA, they sold their sold out to Trump. nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Tue, 01 Sep 2020 01:18:35 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51789,from=rss#post51789https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51789,from=rss#post51789But we have to remember that most of the people dying are susceptible due to other causes, which makes covid-19 only appear more dangerous than it really is. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities {... Comorbidities Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death. The number of deaths with each condition or cause is shown for all deaths and by age groups. For data on comorbidities, ...} So if not for these other 2.6 average additional conditions, then they likely would not have died. Which makes covid-19 appear 15 times more deadly than it really is. The reality is that it is mostly those with compromised immune systems, vaping, obesity, pneumonia, etc., who are dying.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Mon, 31 Aug 2020 16:26:03 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51772,from=rss#post51772https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51772,from=rss#post51772quote:katie5445 wrote: Who said pneumonia wasn't taken seriously and why the comparison in a pandemic? I'm not getting your point. The top 7 causes of death in the world is disease. Pneumonia for me would be as serious as covid and again, your point? That's it. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Philer)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 17:03:35 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51769,from=rss#post51769https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51769,from=rss#post51769Its not like this new hybrid is going to go away. Likely there will be even more lethal and complex variations of covid-19 in the future, so isolation ans social distancing is distinctly the WRONG way to deal with it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:56:05 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51768,from=rss#post51768https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51768,from=rss#post51768quote:katie5445 wrote: Calling a pandemic which we have not experienced in 100 yrs. a no threat, reminds of those who said HIV/AIDS was no threat. WTF does that mean, it's not a bother to you so it's no big deal? Tell over 180,000 dead in this country, their families, it was evolution and no threat I bet they will tell you to f**l off. No, we have pandemics much worse than covid-19 more than once a decade. The covid-19 virus did not kill anyone. Those who died had an immune system over reaction that killed them instead of the virus, and that should easily be prevented. In fact, the best way is just simply herd immunity, as our immune system adjusts to this new hybrid.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 14:53:53 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51760,from=rss#post51760https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51760,from=rss#post51760Calling a pandemic which we have not experienced in 100 yrs. a no threat, reminds of those who said HIV/AIDS was no threat. WTF does that mean, it's not a bother to you so it's no big deal? Tell over 180,000 dead in this country, their families, it was evolution and no threat I bet they will tell you to f**l off.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:25:08 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51753,from=rss#post51753https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51753,from=rss#post51753quote:katie5445 wrote: Of course it is, it is how millions of us die and it is natural. No matter the species, their is always a chain. Evolution selects for the immune system to help us, not kill us. The only problem is with new things like covid-19, it mimics exosomes, which is the mechanism by which cells announce a threat, and in this case, make our immune system think there is a much greater threat than there really is. The reality is that covid-19 is no threat at all.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 07:03:02 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51748,from=rss#post51748https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51748,from=rss#post51748Of course it is, it is how millions of us die and it is natural. No matter the species, their is always a chain.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 02:20:20 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51744,from=rss#post51744https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51744,from=rss#post51744quote:katie5445 wrote: quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Diabetes is probably the best known auto-immune disease although I suspect most people don't know that it falls into that category. It's certainly an indication that our immune systems are not perfect and can go haywire. And since we know about how to moderate an immune system that is out of whack, it surprises me we are not ameliorating the immune system symptoms from covid-19 more successfully? I guess you think that because you think everything is an easy fix. The immune system is not supposed to kill anyone, so it should not be that hard to prevent the over reaction that is killing people. The covid-19 virus has never killed anyone, so it should not be that hard to prevent the immune system being triggered by it.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 01:55:19 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51743,from=rss#post51743https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51743,from=rss#post51743quote:katie5445 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Pneumonia if severe enough can require similar treatment methods. It's an illness at least as dangerous as covid-19 and probably more dangerous. Reducing the power of one's immune system is always a tricky thing to do even though it can lead to good results in some cases. A friend of mine who has been taking prednisone to help with his overactive immune system and resultant pain recently came down with a case of pneumonia. Fortunately it could be effectively treated with an antibiotic. Pneumonia is not more dangerous than covid, deaths from pneumonia in 2019 was 54,000 and we are up to 183,000 from covid in 6 months. They have been treating covid with prednisone and anti arthritic meds No, cpvod-19 is only killing 20,000 a month, while pneumonia kills more like 25,000 month. Pneumonia is seasonal since it takes cold weather to really cause a lot of cases, but covid-19 also should only last a couple of months. The fact we have deliberately "flattened the curve" to keep covid-19 around forever, it our fault, not the normal way any epidemic would ever act on its own or any ever has. The fact covid-19 is up to 183,000 is just 20,000 a month. And by preventing herd immunity, there can never be an end to it. Flattening the curve make it last longer, and with an epidemic, that means more deaths. Glad to hear they are trying some immuno suppressants, but clearly they must not be using enough. No one should be dying. Covid-19 is just not that deadly. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 01:52:56 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51741,from=rss#post51741https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51741,from=rss#post51741Who said pneumonia wasn't taken seriously and why the comparison in a pandemic? I'm not getting your point. The top 7 causes of death in the world is disease. Pneumonia for me would be as serious as covid and again, your point?nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 01:46:52 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51737,from=rss#post51737https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51737,from=rss#post51737quote:katie5445 wrote: 54k in one year vs. 180k in 6 months is "nitpicking? Not good at math? Rabies, that would be 210% true. I take pneumonia extremely seriously, I've also been a pneumonia patient. I also have lung disease. You're comparing the total number of fatalities of a very contagious disease during a pandemic with a more generally controlled illness which isn't the kind of comparison I'm making. I'm comparing the danger of each illness once you have contracted it. And even if pneumonia is not as dangerous as covid, it's dangerous enough to be taken very seriously. Just as seriously as anyone takes covid-19. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Philer)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 01:22:19 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51733,from=rss#post51733https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51733,from=rss#post5173354k in one year vs. 180k in 6 months is "nitpicking? Not good at math? Rabies, that would be 210% true. I take pneumonia extremely seriously, I've also been a pneumonia patient. I also have lung disease. nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Sun, 30 Aug 2020 00:47:52 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51718,from=rss#post51718https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51718,from=rss#post51718quote:katie5445 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Pneumonia if severe enough can require similar treatment methods. It's an illness at least as dangerous as covid-19 and probably more dangerous. Reducing the power of one's immune system is always a tricky thing to do even though it can lead to good results in some cases. A friend of mine who has been taking prednisone to help with his overactive immune system and resultant pain recently came down with a case of pneumonia. Fortunately it could be effectively treated with an antibiotic. Pneumonia is not more dangerous than covid, deaths from pneumonia in 2019 was 54,000 and we are up to 183,000 from covid in 6 months. They have been treating covid with prednisone and anti arthritic meds Nit picking. Based on that way of calculating the danger, the rabies virus is not as dangerous as covid. As a former nurse you have to know that pneumonia is an illness that needs to be taken very seriously regardless whether it is quite as dangerous as covid or not in any particular case. Muppet creator Jim Henson mistook his pneumonia for a much less serious illness such as a cold and by the time he took it seriously it was too late. Doctors weren't able to save him. Using an immune suppressing drug and getting pneumonia can easily be as life threatening as covid-19. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Philer)Sat, 29 Aug 2020 17:38:01 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51714,from=rss#post51714https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51714,from=rss#post51714quote:katie5445 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Pneumonia if severe enough can require similar treatment methods. It's an illness at least as dangerous as covid-19 and probably more dangerous. Reducing the power of one's immune system is always a tricky thing to do even though it can lead to good results in some cases. A friend of mine who has been taking prednisone to help with his overactive immune system and resultant pain recently came down with a case of pneumonia. Fortunately it could be effectively treated with an antibiotic. Pneumonia is not more dangerous than covid, deaths from pneumonia in 2019 was 54,000 and we are up to 183,000 from covid in 6 months. They have been treating covid with prednisone and anti arthritic meds If covid-19 had not been artificially retained by "flattening the curve", then the death total would have been less than pneumonia. Covid-19 death tolls come from duration, not lethality or infection rates. And duration is entirely due to deliberate "flattening the curve".nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Fri, 28 Aug 2020 15:41:09 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51696,from=rss#post51696https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51696,from=rss#post51696quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Diabetes is probably the best known auto-immune disease although I suspect most people don't know that it falls into that category. It's certainly an indication that our immune systems are not perfect and can go haywire. And since we know about how to moderate an immune system that is out of whack, it surprises me we are not ameliorating the immune system symptoms from covid-19 more successfully? I guess you think that because you think everything is an easy fix.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:32:01 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51695,from=rss#post51695https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51695,from=rss#post51695quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:katie5445 wrote: You can disagree all you want, look it up. I already did look it up so I could quote the symptoms. A disease can be caused by the attack of a malevolent predatory organism, but can also be due to some imbalance of something totally benign. An auto immune disease can even by an immune system triggered incorrectly by our own body. Exactly, low Potassium and sodium are a symptom and one attributed to many diseases, which is the bit you miss. Think headaches, also not a disease but a symptom.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:30:06 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51693,from=rss#post51693https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51693,from=rss#post51693I have to say.... I don't know where people are getting their information but I find it extremely distressing to this entire country.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:21:36 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51692,from=rss#post51692https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51692,from=rss#post51692quote:Philer wrote: Pneumonia if severe enough can require similar treatment methods. It's an illness at least as dangerous as covid-19 and probably more dangerous. Reducing the power of one's immune system is always a tricky thing to do even though it can lead to good results in some cases. A friend of mine who has been taking prednisone to help with his overactive immune system and resultant pain recently came down with a case of pneumonia. Fortunately it could be effectively treated with an antibiotic. Pneumonia is not more dangerous than covid, deaths from pneumonia in 2019 was 54,000 and we are up to 183,000 from covid in 6 months. They have been treating covid with prednisone and anti arthritic medsnondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Fri, 28 Aug 2020 02:15:06 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51672,from=rss#post51672https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51672,from=rss#post51672quote:Philer wrote: Pneumonia if severe enough can require similar treatment methods. It's an illness at least as dangerous as covid-19 and probably more dangerous. Reducing the power of one's immune system is always a tricky thing to do even though it can lead to good results in some cases. A friend of mine who has been taking prednisone to help with his overactive immune system and resultant pain recently came down with a case of pneumonia. Fortunately it could be effectively treated with an antibiotic. Yes, there are dangers. But hopefully one does not need treatment for covid-19 for very long since it dies so quickly.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Thu, 27 Aug 2020 04:08:15 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51670,from=rss#post51670https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51670,from=rss#post51670Pneumonia if severe enough can require similar treatment methods. It's an illness at least as dangerous as covid-19 and probably more dangerous. Reducing the power of one's immune system is always a tricky thing to do even though it can lead to good results in some cases. A friend of mine who has been taking prednisone to help with his overactive immune system and resultant pain recently came down with a case of pneumonia. Fortunately it could be effectively treated with an antibiotic. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Philer)Wed, 26 Aug 2020 18:49:34 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51668,from=rss#post51668https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51668,from=rss#post51668quote:Philer wrote: quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Diabetes is probably the best known auto-immune disease although I suspect most people don't know that it falls into that category. It's certainly an indication that our immune systems are not perfect and can go haywire. And since we know about how to moderate an immune system that is out of whack, it surprises me we are not ameliorating the immune system symptoms from covid-19 more successfully? There can be additional problems when you reduce the efficiency of the immune system to deal with an overreaction to an illness. One obvious problem is that doing that can increase your susceptibility to other dangerous illnesses such as pneumonia. Of course, but when the alternative they are routinely using is chemically induced coma and intubation to a ventilator, anything has got to be better than that death sentence.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Wed, 26 Aug 2020 16:56:50 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51665,from=rss#post51665https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51665,from=rss#post51665quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:Philer wrote: Diabetes is probably the best known auto-immune disease although I suspect most people don't know that it falls into that category. It's certainly an indication that our immune systems are not perfect and can go haywire. And since we know about how to moderate an immune system that is out of whack, it surprises me we are not ameliorating the immune system symptoms from covid-19 more successfully? There can be additional problems when you reduce the efficiency of the immune system to deal with an overreaction to an illness. One obvious problem is that doing that can increase your susceptibility to other dangerous illnesses such as pneumonia. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Philer)Wed, 26 Aug 2020 02:05:22 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51664,from=rss#post51664https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51664,from=rss#post51664quote:Philer wrote: Diabetes is probably the best known auto-immune disease although I suspect most people don't know that it falls into that category. It's certainly an indication that our immune systems are not perfect and can go haywire. And since we know about how to moderate an immune system that is out of whack, it surprises me we are not ameliorating the immune system symptoms from covid-19 more successfully?nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 22:48:04 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51659,from=rss#post51659https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51659,from=rss#post51659Diabetes is probably the best known auto-immune disease although I suspect most people don't know that it falls into that category. It's certainly an indication that our immune systems are not perfect and can go haywire. nondisclosed_email@example.com (Philer)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 18:39:42 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51658,from=rss#post51658https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51658,from=rss#post51658quote:katie5445 wrote: You can disagree all you want, look it up. I already did look it up so I could quote the symptoms. A disease can be caused by the attack of a malevolent predatory organism, but can also be due to some imbalance of something totally benign. An auto immune disease can even by an immune system triggered incorrectly by our own body.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 16:27:35 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51649,from=rss#post51649https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51649,from=rss#post51649You can disagree all you want, look it up.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 01:58:26 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51644,from=rss#post51644https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51644,from=rss#post51644quote:katie5445 wrote: quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:katie5445 wrote: Low sodium is a symptom of many diseases, it however is not a disease in itself. I have no clue what you mean by "no intent" sodium is extremely important to human survival. Low sodium or low potassium is a disease all on its own. If one simply has a deficient diet, and is drinking distilled water, they can become sodium or potassium deficient. There can be lots of plain dumb minerals that are extremely important to human survival, but it does not mean they are malevolent and out to get us. Viruses on the other hand do have an intent to multiply by killing living cells, so do have an inherent danger that needs to be curtailed, even if the virus is useful in some way. And the point is that all viruses would be lethal if not for the ability of our immune system to keep them in check. We take our immune system for granted, but it really is much more important than we realize. When people talk about being immune to some disease, they think of it as magic, but in reality it is just the ability of our immune system to fight off the pathogen. No magic involed. Low sodium or potassium, is not a disease, it is a symptom. I disagree. Low sodium or potassium it not a symptom. Symptoms are things you feel, like something not functioning, hurting, etc. For example, the symptoms of low sodium can be: {... Hyponatremia signs and symptoms may include: Nausea and vomiting. Headache. Confusion. Loss of energy, drowsiness and fatigue. Restlessness and irritability. Muscle weakness, spasms or cramps. Seizures. Coma. ...} Determining the cause from the symptoms can be difficult. It does not have to be a malevolent pathogen. But all viruses are malevolent and dangerous if not for the immune system keeping them in check. All viruses want to destroy cells in order to multiply.nondisclosed_email@example.com (Rigby5)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 01:29:08 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51643,from=rss#post51643https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51643,from=rss#post51643quote:Geezess wrote: AGAIN, Is Trump technically obese ? Yes.nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:58:52 +0000 Re: Bill Maher tackles obesityhttps://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51642,from=rss#post51642https://bthepoliticalgrilltwo.runboard.com/p51642,from=rss#post51642quote:Rigby5 wrote: quote:katie5445 wrote: Low sodium is a symptom of many diseases, it however is not a disease in itself. I have no clue what you mean by "no intent" sodium is extremely important to human survival. Low sodium or low potassium is a disease all on its own. If one simply has a deficient diet, and is drinking distilled water, they can become sodium or potassium deficient. There can be lots of plain dumb minerals that are extremely important to human survival, but it does not mean they are malevolent and out to get us. Viruses on the other hand do have an intent to multiply by killing living cells, so do have an inherent danger that needs to be curtailed, even if the virus is useful in some way. And the point is that all viruses would be lethal if not for the ability of our immune system to keep them in check. We take our immune system for granted, but it really is much more important than we realize. When people talk about being immune to some disease, they think of it as magic, but in reality it is just the ability of our immune system to fight off the pathogen. No magic involed. Low sodium or potassium, is not a disease, it is a symptom. nondisclosed_email@example.com (katie5445)Tue, 25 Aug 2020 00:58:32 +0000