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Trump’s Legacy: 200,000 Americans dead, and the number is growing


Trump’s Legacy: 200,000 Americans dead, and the number is growing


The president knew about Covid-19 as early as Feb. 7 of this year after speaking to China’s President Xi.

“You just breathe the air and that’s how it’s passed,” Trump, the non-masker, told Woodward in one of 18 interviews the president gave the journalist for the new book, “Rage.” Why would Trump do that? His campaign aides reportedly were shocked to find out. The president’s ego must have gotten in the way.

Or maybe he wanted to confess that he knew more than he let on to the public in February.

“It’s also more deadly than your, you know, than even your strenuous flus, you know, people don’t realize we lose 25,000, 35,000 people a year here,” Trump said. “This is more deadly, this is five per–you know, five percent versus one percent and less than 1 percent. You know deadly stuff.”

The candor reveals in no uncertain terms that Trump knew a life and death situation was upon us. He knew exactly how deadly the situation was—five times greater than the flu. And yet to the public, Trump was hardly acting with the urgency of a world leader concerned about our health. In fact, he dismissed it as being no greater than the flu.

Finally, on March 16, Trump first introduced the task force and announced 15 days to slow the spread of the virus.

But you’ll recall on March 19, Trump was still talking fast and loose about the virus, despite knowing its deadly nature. He even joked about it, referring to it as the “Kung Flu” and the “China Virus.”

It was the double whammy of Trump’s inaction, plus a signal to his base to blame Asians for this disruption in their lives. It’s led to thousands of racist attacks against Asian Americans.

And as the downplayer-in-chief continues to do so during the pandemic, businesses fail; people lose jobs; rent goes unpaid; food shortages rise, and the death toll has reached to 200,000 Americans.

This is your leader who lies to your face about the deadly situation we’re in and continues to go maskless and hold super-spreader rallies because he’d rather sacrifice your life before his own presidency.

Time to resign?

I wanted to be the first to say “Resign.” But people I know shot back, “He’ll never resign.”

Yes, but he should.

Then I heard Woodward’s Watergate pal, Carl Bernstein, on CNN.

“We are listening to the President of the United States on tape deliberately undermining the national security of the United States, the health and well-being of the people of the United States, and he’s doing it knowingly in real time,” Bernstein said on CNN.

Bernstein said instead of letting us know what we’re facing, Trump covered up a “grave national emergency.”

“This is one of the great presidential felonies of all time, maybe the greatest,” Bernstein said. “And we have the smoking gun tape of the president committing the felony.”

Bernstein called it a “homicidal negligence.”

What else do you call a situation where slow-playing the virus has resulted in almost 7 million people infected and 200,000 people dead in the U.S.?

The onus is now on the Republican leadership. Time to think about the country and not your political self-preservation, folks. Be a real patriot and hero. Will Mr. Elaine Chao (Kentucky Sen. Mitch McConnell) have the guts to lead others in confronting the president, just as Republican leaders told Nixon when it was time to go?

Said Bernstein: “[They] told Nixon he had to resign, and the facts here are even graver than in Watergate.”

And that’s the state of America. We need to see Republicans with the courage stand up to the downplayer-in-chief and tell him to his face he is unfit to lead and has been derelict in his duties.

Maybe they should tell him if he really wants to make history, it would be better, cleaner, just to leave right now.

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Why is it that not one of the Republican officeholders objecting to Biden's victory have objected to their own wins on the same day on the same ballots using the same election systems??!
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Was it shocking, no it's Donald Trump, a weak, angry, coward whose own thoughts of inadequacy as a man is overwhelming.
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Clearly the covid-19 death toll is entirely the fault of those preventing herd immunity by social distancing and flattening the curve.
The vast majority of the human population is already inherently immune, so we could easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus locally if we had not prevented herd immunity with social distancing.
The proof is how many asymptomatic there are.
Most studies come up with 90% of the population must already be inherently immune because they are asymptomatic.
Some only estimate 80% or so, but that is still way more than is needed to achieve herd immunity if we encourage another 10% or so to acquire immunity.

Herd immunity is easy to obtain and causes less death, because most people already are immune, so we start off being very close to herd immunity to begin with.
There is no other possible explanation for so many asymptomatic cases.
Asymptomatic cases must mean previous inherent immunity.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/over-90-of-co ... ymptomatic
https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm ... onShip.pdf
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... tic-cases/
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2013020
https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/chand ... ild-142175
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So why is Sweden's numbers of deaths 5880 while NZ's is 25? Sweden's population is 10 million while NZ's is half that, ie 5 million.
NZ has had 4 deaths in the past 5 months. The majority of infections have been among folk who have travelled from overseas. The only local group are some religious nutters who believe their god would protect them.
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quote:

Rigby5 wrote:

Clearly the covid-19 death toll is entirely the fault of those preventing herd immunity by social distancing and flattening the curve.
The vast majority of the human population is already inherently immune, so we could easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus locally if we had not prevented herd immunity with social distancing.



Says who? You are full of crap and spreading LIES!

There is NOBODY in the legitimate scientific community that will back up that claim.

Why must you LIE and further spread Russian and GOP propaganda?

How about you actually prove your claim, or hang your head in shame and STFU!


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... tic-cases/
News reports about chemical weapons, et al.!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2013020
Natural History of Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Infection
Information on the natural history of asymptomatic infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) remains scarce.

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Why is it that not one of the Republican officeholders objecting to Biden's victory have objected to their own wins on the same day on the same ballots using the same election systems??!
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So why is Sweden's numbers of deaths 5880 while NZ's is 25? Sweden's population is 10 million while NZ's is half that, ie 5 million.
NZ has had 4 deaths in the past 5 months. The majority of infections have been among folk who have travelled from overseas. The only local group are some religious nutters who believe their god would protect them.



Because Rigby is mistaken? Norway, Finland and Iceland have far better stats, he is cherry picking at the wrong cherry.
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Here is an account of Sweden's attempts at herd immunity.

It hasn't been as effective as people like Rigby would want us to believe.
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So why is Sweden's numbers of deaths 5880 while NZ's is 25? Sweden's population is 10 million while NZ's is half that, ie 5 million.
NZ has had 4 deaths in the past 5 months. The majority of infections have been among folk who have travelled from overseas. The only local group are some religious nutters who believe their god would protect them.



NZ never got an entrenched epidemic, so can use quarantine strategy instead of herd immunity.
The good thing about quarantine is that it works the fastest, so has the least death toll. The only down side is that it allows constant vulnerability to reintroduction of the epidemic, so has trouble ending.

But NZ quarantine strategy can not be used with an entrenched epidemic like the US has since March.
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quote:

Rigby5 wrote:

Clearly the covid-19 death toll is entirely the fault of those preventing herd immunity by social distancing and flattening the curve.
The vast majority of the human population is already inherently immune, so we could easily have achieved herd immunity and wiped out the virus locally if we had not prevented herd immunity with social distancing.



Says who? You are full of crap and spreading LIES!

There is NOBODY in the legitimate scientific community that will back up that claim.

Why must you LIE and further spread Russian and GOP propaganda?

How about you actually prove your claim, or hang your head in shame and STFU!


https://www.wxyz.com/news/over-90-of-co ... ymptomatic
Page Not Found
We are sorry the page you are looking for cannot be found. Back to home

https://med.stanford.edu/content/dam/sm ... onShip.pdf
Not Found
404 Not Found
Cannot serve request to /content/dam/sm.html on this server

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/ ... tic-cases/
News reports about chemical weapons, et al.!!!
https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2013020
Natural History of Asymptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Infection
Information on the natural history of asymptomatic infection with severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) remains scarce.

https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/chand ... ild-142175
404
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That is stupid.
Name a single entrenched epidemic that has ever ended by anything other than herd immunity?

You can't, because there isn't one.
So that means the general human population have always been already mostly immune.
That is what the asymptomatic are with covid-19.
And now they are saying that may be as much as 90% of the population.

Herd immunity could have been accelerated in March, and gone in less than 6 weeks.
About 170,000 of those 200,000 deaths so far, are plain murder.
And this stupid "flattening the curve" will never end, so will kill millions eventually.
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quote:

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So why is Sweden's numbers of deaths 5880 while NZ's is 25? Sweden's population is 10 million while NZ's is half that, ie 5 million.
NZ has had 4 deaths in the past 5 months. The majority of infections have been among folk who have travelled from overseas. The only local group are some religious nutters who believe their god would protect them.



Because Rigby is mistaken? Norway, Finland and Iceland have far better stats, he is cherry picking at the wrong cherry.




Wrong.
Norway, Finland, and Iceland only have better stats because they QUARANTINED.
And you can't do quarantine in the US, since March.
Its too late.
So herd immunity is the ONLY choice left.
Social distancing is just murder, because it can NEVER end the epidemic and its 30,000/month death toll.
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