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It's the NY Post and Rupert Murdoch. I don't trust his tabloids, until confirmed, which has not happened many times. One of my favs in another one of his tabloids is autopsy on 97 y.o. woman who had petrified alien fetus in her uterus. I read the latest Hunter Biden emails, an American did not write them.



Good point, it is the NY Post and Rupert Murdoch, and they are suspect. But we have Joe Biden's own admission about illegally insisting on the firing of Shokin as a condition for US money and weapons. There is no legal basis for that. Removing a civil service prosecutor violates all standards of bureaucratic protocol, unless you can charge Shokin with a crime. He was never charged with a crime.



It's called international hardball! All admin. set conditions to get money! With Republicans it's usually on the lines of "no abortion" under any circumstance! Shokin was obviously corrupt and it only made sense to make it conditional of continued support that they get rid of this guy! Happens all the time! If Trump were to keep his office, the international community would probably start putting conditions on us just to join in! We're in such disrepute at this time! Trump's such an embarrassment abroad! They really do "laugh" at the man and us; shaking their heads pitifully! How the mighty have fallen! emoticon



No, Shokin was not at all corrupt, and that has since been proven. And it is illegal to demand a civil service prosecutor be fored at all, much less by a foreign government.
Joe Biden went WAY over the line on this one, and I don't see how he can then still on the ballot. His actions were totally and completely illegal.



Just because "you say so?" I see! Hmmm! I'll go along with the crime of "non-action!" If he's not pursuing prosecutions of shady characters, he's not doing his job! By definition it's corrupt, just not illegal; sorta like McConnell in The Senate! emoticon

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It's the NY Post and Rupert Murdoch. I don't trust his tabloids, until confirmed, which has not happened many times. One of my favs in another one of his tabloids is autopsy on 97 y.o. woman who had petrified alien fetus in her uterus. I read the latest Hunter Biden emails, an American did not write them.



Good point, it is the NY Post and Rupert Murdoch, and they are suspect. But we have Joe Biden's own admission about illegally insisting on the firing of Shokin as a condition for US money and weapons. There is no legal basis for that. Removing a civil service prosecutor violates all standards of bureaucratic protocol, unless you can charge Shokin with a crime. He was never charged with a crime.



It's called international hardball! All admin. set conditions to get money! With Republicans it's usually on the lines of "no abortion" under any circumstance! Shokin was obviously corrupt and it only made sense to make it conditional of continued support that they get rid of this guy! Happens all the time! If Trump were to keep his office, the international community would probably start putting conditions on us just to join in! We're in such disrepute at this time! Trump's such an embarrassment abroad! They really do "laugh" at the man and us; shaking their heads pitifully! How the mighty have fallen! emoticon



No, Shokin was not at all corrupt, and that has since been proven. And it is illegal to demand a civil service prosecutor be fored at all, much less by a foreign government.
Joe Biden went WAY over the line on this one, and I don't see how he can then still on the ballot. His actions were totally and completely illegal.



Just because "you say so?" I see! Hmmm! I'll go along with the crime of "non-action!" If he's not pursuing prosecutions of shady characters, he's not doing his job! By definition it's corrupt, just not illegal; sorta like McConnell in The Senate! emoticon




No, the firing of Shokin was obviously illegal and the courts have ruled as such.

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On Feb. 27 2020, a court ruling forced investigators to open a probe on Biden's pressure on Poroshenko to fire Shokin.[37]
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The main problem is that the current government of the Ukraine is criminal.
They stole oil and gas from Russian., and are not illegally using US weapons to prevent Russia from using force to get paid back for the thefts.
The US is guilty of aidding and abetting, after the fact.
Joe Biden violated US law as well as international law.

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The former govt. of Ukraine are criminals. I watched the Rudy interview with one of the so called interviewers on FOX, he included Jill Biden and Bidens dead son, who was extremely ill and died at the time. He also claimed an outrageous amount of millions for a meeting they would all make. The NY Post is a tabloid owned by Murdoch, full of conspiracy theories and crazy junk. The last time I read it, the front page was a 92 y.o. woman who died, autopsy performed where they found a petrified alien fetus. Listening to Rudy and the claims, maybe I shouldn't since it is a serious charge, I laughed at the stupidity.
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The former govt. of Ukraine are criminals. I watched the Rudy interview with one of the so called interviewers on FOX, he included Jill Biden and Bidens dead son, who was extremely ill and died at the time. He also claimed an outrageous amount of millions for a meeting they would all make. The NY Post is a tabloid owned by Murdoch, full of conspiracy theories and crazy junk. The last time I read it, the front page was a 92 y.o. woman who died, autopsy performed where they found a petrified alien fetus. Listening to Rudy and the claims, maybe I shouldn't since it is a serious charge, I laughed at the stupidity.



Yes the former Ukraine government was also criminal.
But so is the current Ukraine government, and so is Hunter Biden and Joe Biden.
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Says who Rupert Murdoch rag mags? Ukraine has been a pawn between the US and Russia. the US fed. govt. doesn't say Ukraine is on their website.
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Says who Rupert Murdoch rag mags? Ukraine has been a pawn between the US and Russia. the US fed. govt. doesn't say Ukraine is on their website.



No, the Ukraine started this on their own, stealing Russian oil.
The Ukraine is not a pawn, but the one who deliberately started it, and enticed the US into it.
This is established fact, due to the Ukraine losing in the World Court and then admitting the oil and gas thefts.
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It is not as simple as that.
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They're grasping at straws, but it's not going to work this time! They have to desperate trying to make Biden out to be some evil socialist that will sell us to the highest bidder; China or Russia! Truthfully, that person would have to be a Trump, not Biden or any other American for that matter! Hopefully if we're lucky enough to be rid of these rodents, they'll go scurry down a rathole never to be heard from again! We can't get that fortunate, but if they're in the news, please be in conjunction to an indictment! emoticon

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They're grasping at straws, but it's not going to work this time! They have to desperate trying to make Biden out to be some evil socialist that will sell us to the highest bidder; China or Russia! Truthfully, that person would have to be a Trump, not Biden or any other American for that matter! Hopefully if we're lucky enough to be rid of these rodents, they'll go scurry down a rathole never to be heard from again! We can't get that fortunate, but if they're in the news, please be in conjunction to an indictment! emoticon




If ONLY Biden were a socialist.
I AM a socialist.
Democrats USED to be socialists to a degree.
But not only more.
In the last 30 years, democrats have turned into right wing fascists, supporting war, the war on drug, 3 strikes, anti union immigration, gun control, etc.
None of those are positions a leftist can support.
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You are all over the map, I wouldn't put any identity on you. I couldn't guess in a million yrs. I don't know what you mean by "socialist" that is a broad spectrum, it is not Sanders democratic socialism for sure. I am not unhappy voting for Biden, I would have an extremely easy time voting for Sanders as well, yet Bernie is not a "socialist" in the terms of what many call "socialism" he is a democratic socialist. What I support, the dem platform compared to republicans, the person is a different kettle.
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