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(whilst realising that I will sound like Rigby) this just has to be wrong.
A man (who was drunk and on drugs)did nothing to help a teenage girl as she drowned in the sea has been jailed for manslaughter.
he and the girl were kissing on the seafront and she fell in the water, screaming for help.
Rather than raise the alarm or attempt to save her, he ran off and continued drinking in a bar before contacting police.
there is no suggestion that he pushed her into the sea only that once she fell in he didnot render aid.
As far as I know unlike several European countries we have no obligation to give aid.
Sure this man isnt getting my nomination for citizen of the year but neither does he deserve 5 years in jail
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BTW here is why I wouldnt compel any man to render aid.
I was at this lake, having my first swim for the summer and although it was cold in the water it was quite pleasant and I finally got to try on my new super cute bikini. So anyway there’s this ten feet high, floating jumping tower out in the middle of the lake and I swam there to go practice my jumps.
There was a BANG, an explosion of pain, and then it all went black.
The next thing I knew I was being dragged through the water, by a man, and blood was running down my face and into my mouth. I didn’t have any idea what had happened, my head was spinning and throbbing and I felt like I was going to throw up. The man who was dragging me was like 40 or something and towed me towards the floating platform. I didn’t like this situation at all – at all. I asked him what had happened (in a very slurred tone) and he told me I had hit my head on the way down from the jumping platform, that I had been knocked unconscious and that I had been under water for at least two minutes.
He carried me up the little ladder and laid me down on the wooden boards of the floating platform. People were gathering around us, gasping, screaming, crying. I was astonished, I couldn’t believe it, I couldn’t believe I was alive. I was feeling like !@#$ though, I was woozy, I was in pain, but most of all, most of all, I was disgusted.
I was disgusted at this hairy man having felt it appropriate to touch my body like that. To grab me forcefully and pull me in what ever direction HE wanted to go. He took control of my body down there in the cold water, when I was unconscious and unable to look out for myself, he touched my all-but-bikini bare body when I was KNOCKED out and unable to struggle. Him, being a white man, felt he had the right to possess my milky body – to put his rough hands on my innocent flesh and command my body to come with him to the surface. I did NOT give him consent, in fact I was UNABLE to give consent and yet he grabbed me around my waist and gripped my hand and pressed my body against his like we he wanted to engage in aquatic sex.
I am now charging or suing or whatever this man for rape – because what he did is literally the definition of rape
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(whilst realising that I will sound like Rigby) this just has to be wrong.
A man (who was drunk and on drugs)did nothing to help a teenage girl as she drowned in the sea has been jailed for manslaughter.
he and the girl were kissing on the seafront and she fell in the water, screaming for help.
Rather than raise the alarm or attempt to save her, he ran off and continued drinking in a bar before contacting police.
there is no suggestion that he pushed her into the sea only that once she fell in he didnot render aid.
As far as I know unlike several European countries we have no obligation to give aid.
Sure this man isnt getting my nomination for citizen of the year but neither does he deserve 5 years in jail
He needed to at least raise an alarm. By showing that level of disregard for her when it was possible that someone might have been able to save her he left himself open to the charge of manslaughter. He seemed to have no regard for her at all which means that five years in prison for his negligent behavior is not unreasonable.
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He is quite simply a scumbag. I fell off a bike once and cut my knee quite bad. Instantly cars driving by pulled over to the side, people jumped out and came to my rescue. There were at least five men surrounding me, wiping my wound and helping me up. They all wanted to drive me to the hospital but I declined saying I was close to home and if necessary my husband would take me. That is what all of us should expect. This guy deserves his time in the slammer.
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He is quite simply a scumbag
agreed - but is he a criminal?
As far as I can find there is in UK law no requirement to render assistance although his failure to contact the emergency services may have worked against him - even though their arrival would almost certainly have been too late to save the girl
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He seemed to have no regard for her at all which means that five years in prison for his negligent behavior is not unreasonable
In the other article I posted the man had a great deal of regard for the woman - he dived into the water and retrieved her unconscious body saving her from near certain death - and he is being branded a 'rapist'.
Does he have a legal requirement to 'have regard for' the girl - as far as I can see no such requirement exists
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Legal? Who cares? Where is the decency?
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Legal? Who cares? Where is the decency?
courts punish breaches of law not lapses of decency
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Simon Taylor for the prosecution told the hearing: "Mr Bowditch accepts that although he cannot say exactly how Becky Morgan came to fall into the sea, once she fell in he failed to take any steps to try to assist her.
"It is the failure to take any steps to prevent Miss Morgan's death after she fell into the sea which forms the basis of his culpability for manslaughter."
Sentencing Bowditch, Judge Jeremy Carey said: "You did not try in any way to help a drowning girl - not by throwing her a life buoy, not by going to her aid as some would have done, not by calling for help, not by contacting the rescue or emergency services.
"In other words, you left her to drown."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-kent-38757650
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Judge Jeremy Carey said: "You did not try in any way to help a drowning girl - not by throwing her a life buoy, not by going to her aid as some would have done, not by calling for help, not by contacting the rescue or emergency services.
And that John is my point, so far as I can find you are under no legal obligation to assist.
I have had a good search around - most of the examples refer to giving medical aid to an injured person but I would have thought that this would simply be an extension of that rule.
If for example I am driving along a road late at night and see a car veering off the road into a tree and bursting into flames and I choose to keep on driving as far as I can see I have broken no law
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Re: man jailed for manslaughter for not helping drowning girl
I would have thought it would be a crime to fail to report a hazardous situation?
Isn't there some sort of legislation on negligence?
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