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What isn't a big deal is the imaginary need for women to appear topless in public or in front of their children.

Is it really a problem for some women to keep their tops on? And do we really need to associate going topless with feminism?

Of course not. Feminism doesn't magically turn men and women into precisely the same kind of physical specimen. Let's face it if it is OK for women to run around topless then it is OK for men and women to run around nude just like people do in nudist colonies and on nude beaches in front of children.

The notion that it is discrimination against women to require them to wear tops in public would only apply if transgendering males with breasts would be allowed to go topless and I suspect they would not have that legal privilege more than women do.



I would say you have an issue with breasts shown, whether men or women. Are you aware of how many times in a family nudity is seen even accidently?? My question is what is so unusual about a woman and breasts including being topless? It is you and others who have an issue with breasts, Men do have breasts and we see them all the time, ours are just bigger and the problem lies with breasts are sexual to men. That is not my problem that is theirs. If your'e really a feminist you'd tell them to f@@k off!
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Philer would seem to be the sort of person who would lock the bathroom door - with the children on the outside whilst she has a shower!
(god only knows what corruption might follow if they see her naked!)

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When did the notion that your home is your castle end ?

Is it no longer the right of naturalists to practice their beliefs n their own home ?

Psychologically, isn't the woman that called the police actually the real pervert with (other people's) sex always on her mind ?

Seriously, which of these two women ready needs help, the good wife painting with husband and not wanting to ruin her top, or neighborhood biddy telling other that must be just like her ?
 
(It was not my intent as I began, but now I realize that my point cuts pretty close to the bone, here at TPG, too, I must guess.
How telling is to which woman you relate ? )
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What isn't a big deal is the imaginary need for women to appear topless in public or in front of their children.

Is it really a problem for some women to keep their tops on? And do we really need to associate going topless with feminism?

Of course not. Feminism doesn't magically turn men and women into precisely the same kind of physical specimen. Let's face it if it is OK for women to run around topless then it is OK for men and women to run around nude just like people do in nudist colonies and on nude beaches in front of children.

The notion that it is discrimination against women to require them to wear tops in public would only apply if transgendering males with breasts would be allowed to go topless and I suspect they would not have that legal privilege more than women do.



I would say you have an issue with breasts shown, whether men or women. Are you aware of how many times in a family nudity is seen even accidently?? My question is what is so unusual about a woman and breasts including being topless? It is you and others who have an issue with breasts, Men do have breasts and we see them all the time, ours are just bigger and the problem lies with breasts are sexual to men. That is not my problem that is theirs. If your'e really a feminist you'd tell them to f@@k off!



If there is nothing wrong with bare breasts why did the Supreme Court rule that state governments could require them to be covered by pasties on stage in night clubs? And if they should be covered in night clubs with only adults there why shouldn't they be kept covered elsewhere, at least where children are?

Keep in mind that one of the Justices who made that ruling was a woman, Sandra Day O'Connor. She wasn't someone obsessed with female breasts or at least I doubt it.

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Philer would seem to be the sort of person who would lock the bathroom door - with the children on the outside whilst she has a shower!
(god only knows what corruption might follow if they see her naked!)



It's only a matter of learned behaviour, not really corruption. If children see adults stripping down in front of other people they will tend to imitate that. And they may do it in places where it will get them into trouble.
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If there is nothing wrong with bare breasts why did the Supreme Court rule that state governments could require them to be covered by pasties on stage in night clubs?



you realise that your own home and a night club are different places and have different rules dont you?

by the way the wearing of pasties is plain stupid


 
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She wasn't someone obsessed with female breasts or at least I doubt it.


why wouldnt she be?


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If children see adults stripping down in front of other people they will tend to imitate that.


what if they do?
so far we have been talking about stripping off for a shower - I strongly encouraged this with all my children, stripping off in the house I have a neutral attitude to this its not unknown for either me or my husband to be naked in the house - we dont make a fuss about it and neither do our children.


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And they may do it in places where it will get them into trouble.



you mean like the way that they might learn from their parents about using a toilet and then forget the finer details and crap in the supermarket?


the point is that being naked (and actually we are talking about being bare chested) SHOULDNT "get them into trouble" and indeed wouldnt get them into trouble in most of the world

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the point is that being naked (and actually we are talking about being bare chested) SHOULDNT "get them into trouble" and indeed wouldnt get them into trouble in most of the world



Yes, only in small minded places. You know, like Saudi Arabia, other Islamic hellholes, er America and that's about it.
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I assume that Philer isnt a fan of "fine art" much of which seems to be naked female figures

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here's the thing Utah, an overly religious state. The Mormon church preaches to dress modesty. You can turn your nose at Utah, but people like this exist. I lived there for 30 years of my life.

children were taught their body is a temple, and showing your bare body, shouldn't be done in front of others.

  Again the children's mother called the police on the step-mother and got her charged with lewdness. I can only assume, the mother has a different lifestyle than the step-mothers. Most people would just handled it within the family without calling the police.

regardless of your own opinions, these are real people, this is a real fight, that needs to be sorted out, without her having to register as a sex offender.
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If there is nothing wrong with bare breasts why did the Supreme Court rule that state governments could require them to be covered by pasties on stage in night clubs?



you realise that your own home and a night club are different places and have different rules dont you?

by the way the wearing of pasties is plain stupid



It can't make any sense at all for nudity in a night club exclusive to adults to be morally wrong and subject to legal penalty while nudity in front of children in your own home is not. And the Supreme Court has ruled that such nudity is subject to legal penalty.

And there's nothing about strippers wearing pasties that is stupid. If they didn't do so in some places they could be arrested.

 
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She wasn't someone obsessed with female breasts or at least I doubt it.


why wouldnt she be?-mais

Why would she be?

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If children see adults stripping down in front of other people they will tend to imitate that.


what if they do?
so far we have been talking about stripping off for a shower - I strongly encouraged this with all my children, stripping off in the house I have a neutral attitude to this its not unknown for either me or my husband to be naked in the house - we dont make a fuss about it and neither do our children.-mais


Not making a fuss about it is one thing but insisting that there is some importance to it that isn't real is another matter. My view is that it doesn't hurt to keep one's clothes on in front of family members. It really isn't a problem at all.

And suggesting to your children that women not being legally allowed to be topless in public is some sort of tremendous violation of their rights is ridiculous. It's an "important" cause that's right up there with white people demanding to be allowed to use the N word since black people get to use it.



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And they may do it in places where it will get them into trouble.



you mean like the way that they might learn from their parents about using a toilet and then forget the finer details and crap in the supermarket?-mais


People urinate and crap in the streets. Where do you suppose they learned that behaviour?


the point is that being naked (and actually we are talking about being bare chested) SHOULDNT "get them into trouble" and indeed wouldnt get them into trouble in most of the world-mais


If it gets you into trouble while performing in a nightclub I can't see why it shouldn't get you into trouble elsewhere.

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